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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    Not to mention condoning or actively ordering/facilitating the murder of children in response to insults (II Kings 2:23-24), the total extermination of a group of people (Joshua 6-8) and the enslavement of women and children (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

    Also, I have provided significant evidence of in-vitro sexuality determination that mac seems to have completely ignored...
    I haven't intentionally ignored you...can you rehash it?
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    According to mac, as long as the majority believe it, it's okay to base laws on religion.
    In a democracy, the majority rules. Our whole system of goverment of based on religion. Our founding fathers were very religious.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    The last time I had a pulse that was how democracy worked.
    Ever heard of the phrase "tyranny of the majority"?
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Ever heard of the phrase "tyranny of the majority"?
    Yeah, we both know that there are protections for the minorities in the US and that they don't negate Democracy.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    In a democracy, the majority rules. Our whole system of goverment of based on religion. Our founding fathers were very religious.
    We are not a democracy, we are a representative republic. Democracy is nothing but mob rules, and is a bad form of government.

    And our government is not based on religion at all, you are fooling yourself if you think it is, and our founding fathers were not as religious as you think.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    In a democracy, the majority rules. Our whole system of goverment of based on religion. Our founding fathers were very religious.
    They chose which religious morals they wanted to influence American society, which is why they wrote the bill of rights instead of the ten commandments.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yeah, we both know that there are protections for the minorities in the US and that they don't negate Democracy.
    In this case the equal protection clause comes into play. imho.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Tom View Post
    In a democracy, the majority rules.
    We are a Constitutional Republic. The will of the people is the Constitution of the United States not a 51% vote.

    Our whole system of goverment of based on religion.
    Our system of government specifically excludes religion and was based on the philosophies Plato and many Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke. There can be no established state religion according to our Constitutoin.

    Our founding fathers were very religious.
    Most of the founding fathers were deists. Thomas Jefferson went so far as to create his own Bible, literally cutting out every miracle and supernatural event from the New Testament and leaving just the teachings of Jesus Christ.

    The Jefferson Bible

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    We are not a democracy, we are a representative republic. Democracy is nothing but mob rules, and is a bad form of government.

    And our government is not based on religion at all, you are fooling yourself if you think it is, and our founding fathers were not as religious as you think.
    I wouldn't go as far as to say our Founding Fathers weren't all that religious (they were all individuals, some were, some weren't, some supported the doctrine of secular government but still believed in the value of Christian ideals)

    But clearly our Constitution had more to do with Lockean classical liberalism and the Roman Republic than anything else.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Yeah, we both know that there are protections for the minorities in the US and that they don't negate Democracy.
    Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner.

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