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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    I don't think God would make people homosexual then tell them not to be. Free will is one thing, but that would just be cruel.
    I don't remember choosing but that aside, if gay people had chosen to be gay, then that still does not explain why God thought it was wrong.

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    Congrats. I don't.
    Idolatry. You hold the Bible as infallible which means you hold it at the same level as God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Congrats. I don't.
    And legal policy should be based on your religious belief why?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Congrats. I don't.
    Which goes to show you that there are many different belief systems out there, including ones that do not view homosexuality as a sin and who also do not see marriage as just between a man and a woman. And this is why relying on a religious belief system to provide the basis for laws is bad, since it easily has the potential of outlawing the beliefs of other people and discriminating against others simply because another person's beliefs or a group of people's beliefs include thinking that certain behaviors of others are wrong without showing any actual harm in such behaviors.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which goes to show you that there are many different belief systems out there, including ones that do not view homosexuality as a sin and who also do not see marriage as just between a man and a woman. And this is why relying on a religious belief system to provide the basis for laws is bad, since it easily has the potential of outlawing the beliefs of other people and discriminating against others simply because another person's beliefs or a group of people's beliefs include thinking that certain behaviors of others are wrong without showing any actual harm in such behaviors.
    According to mac, as long as the majority believe it, it's okay to base laws on religion.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which goes to show you that there are many different belief systems out there, including ones that do not view homosexuality as a sin and who also do not see marriage as just between a man and a woman. And this is why relying on a religious belief system to provide the basis for laws is bad, since it easily has the potential of outlawing the beliefs of other people and discriminating against others simply because another person's beliefs or a group of people's beliefs include thinking that certain behaviors of others are wrong without showing any actual harm in such behaviors.
    I don't rely on it, but have the courage to acknowledge it as a factor. I'm not embarrassed by my faith and I've said several times that scientific proof that homosexuality is not a choice would change my stance on this.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    According to mac, as long as the majority believe it, it's okay to base laws on religion.
    That's a simplification.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I don't rely on it, but have the courage to acknowledge it as a factor. I'm not embarrassed by my faith and I've said several times that scientific proof that homosexuality is not a choice would change my stance on this.
    Actually you haven't really explained why proving it isn't a choice would change your opinion. You argued that you need scientific proof that what God in the Bible thinks about homosexuality is wrong, but you haven't provided any evidence of what God in the Bible thinks about homosexuality. For all we know, God in the Bible doesn't think that homosexuality is a choice but still finds it wrong. Sure that might seem cruel, but this is the same God who flooded the world, sacrificed his own son, and lets bad things happen to good people every day.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    this is the same God who flooded the world, sacrificed his own son, and lets bad things happen to good people every day.
    Not to mention condoning or actively ordering/facilitating the murder of children in response to insults (II Kings 2:23-24), the total extermination of a group of people (Joshua 6-8) and the enslavement of women and children (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

    Also, I have provided significant evidence of in-vitro sexuality determination that mac seems to have completely ignored...
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Not to mention condoning or actively ordering/facilitating the murder of children in response to insults (II Kings 2:23-24), the total extermination of a group of people (Joshua 6-8) and the enslavement of women and children (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)

    Also, I have provided significant evidence of in-vitro sexuality determination that mac seems to have completely ignored...
    I love that mac feels he can dictate my morality based on this book and in order to convince him otherwise I have to scientifically disprove a position that was never defined or proven to begin with.

    This is exactly why I think some religious people are no different than schizophrenics.

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