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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The 14th amendment guarantees everyone equal protection under law, so it doesn't matter if sexual preference is mentioned in the Constitution, and even if it is a choice(and I know I didn't chose pussy, pussy chose me) it doesn't matter. Equal protection is guaranteed to everyone who is a citizen of the US.
    Mac, explain why this is wrong using only logic.

    Explain why relegating same sex couples to a separate but equal union than opposite sex couples is not a clear example of "separate but equal" treatment, a policy which was overthrown by the supreme court.

    Also, prove that homosexuality is a choice, since you are so intent on asking others to prove their viewpoints, how about showing proof for yours? It has been proven that, in certain cases at least, that there was a direct correlation between fraternal birth order and homosexuality, meaning that in these cases, sexuality was determined in-vitro. Again, I point you to fraternal birth order.

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    The fraternal birth order effect is the strongest known predictor of sexual orientation. According to several studies, each older brother increases a man's odds of developing a homosexual orientation by 28–48%.

    Bogaert (2006) replicated the fraternal birth order effect on male sexual orientation, in a sample including both biological siblings and adopted siblings. Only the older biological brothers influenced sexual orientation; there was no effect of adopted siblings. Bogaert concluded that his finding strongly suggest a prenatal origin to the fraternal birth-order effect.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    But God could make people homosexual and people put into the Bible that homosexuality is wrong. You have no way to prove that it was people who decided homosexuality was wrong and put it into the Bible as being from God. Or it could easily be a misinterpretation of translations between the original language of the Bible and our own. There are multiple reasons why there could be a disparity between how God made people and how that is contradicted by the Bible. Unfortunately, that may mean changing some people's view of the Bible.
    Well, the oldest Christian Church is against it....and that is my religion.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, the oldest Christian Church is against it....and that is my religion.
    The oldest Christian Church once said that the sun rotated around the earth. It doesn't make sense to restrict other people's ability to marry on this kind of history.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The oldest Christian Church once said that the sun rotated around the earth. It doesn't make sense to restrict other people's ability to marry on this kind of history.
    It was generally accepted in the scientific community, this had nothing to do with religion.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, the oldest Christian Church is against it....and that is my religion.
    I was just pointing out the problem with your logic of how it would be cruel to make people homosexual and then tell them that it is wrong to be homosexual. It is just as cruel to make women capable of doing almost anything a man can do, and then making it wrong to do some of those things. It would be just as cruel to make a person be born as both a girl and boy and making them or their parents choose which sex to live as or choose which sex to partner with. What if they choose the wrong sex, in either way, in God's eyes?
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It was generally accepted in the scientific community, this had nothing to do with religion.
    Galileo was charged with heresy for showing it scientifically.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I was just pointing out the problem with your logic of how it would be cruel to make people homosexual and then tell them that it is wrong to be homosexual.
    It has nothing to do with logic, but rather faith. Being marginally intelligent, relatively well educated, and fairly well experienced hasn't killed my faith.

    It is just as cruel to make women capable of doing almost anything a man can do, and then making it wrong to do some of those things. It would be just as cruel to make a person be born as both a girl and boy and making them or their parents choose which sex to live as or choose which sex to partner with. What if they choose the wrong sex, in either way, in God's eyes?
    I'm not going to play faith tests with you. If you do not believe in God, that is your business....I do.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    Galileo was charged with heresy for showing it scientifically.
    So?

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It has nothing to do with logic, but rather faith. Being marginally intelligent, relatively well educated, and fairly well experienced hasn't killed my faith.



    I'm not going to play faith tests with you. If you do not believe in God, that is your business....I do.
    I believe in God. I don't believe in the Bible. I have little problem believing in God. I have a big problem believing that God influenced every single thing that was written in a book 2000 years ago and needed to be translated multiple times and that He was able to balance free will with ensuring that no one put something in such book that He didn't want in there.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I believe in God. I don't believe in the Bible. I have little problem believing in God. I have a big problem believing that God influenced every single thing that was written in a book 2000 years ago and needed to be translated multiple times and that He was able to balance free will with ensuring that no one put something in such book that He didn't want in there.
    Congrats. I don't.
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