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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You conveniently ignored my post where I proved you wrong, let me repost it:

    1. All of those laws are unconstitutional.
    2. The right to be unconstitutional is NOT reserved for the states and the people which is why the 14th amendment was added to ensure equal protection under the law.
    2. States and citizens have the right to create rights and laws that are constitutional - 14th amendment adds equal protection.

    Defining marriage between a man and a woman is inherently unconstitutional because it goes against the 14th amendment. The Constitution does not specify any moral or ethical guides for defining marriage; therefore, it's definition must, by the 14th amendment and by the absence references to marriage, not exclude any citizens.
    You conveniently ignore states rights.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's not hard to understand that not everyone see it as a violation, clearly, or the SCOTUS would have struck down SSM prohibitions.
    It's not a matter of opinion. As you said, the Constitution is based on morals, but only on the morals it specifies. These morals and principles are used to guide our laws. The 14th amendment guarantees equal protection and no piece of the constitution references any morals that define marriage - marriage is irrelevant to the Constitution, that's why people want to add an amendment to ban gay marriage.

    Gay marriage is unconstitutional because of the 14th amendment and lack of any reference to the definition of marriage, which can only be defined in our laws as long as it is constitutional and agrees with the 14th amendment.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You conveniently ignore states rights.
    States are not allowed to make UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. That's why every state had to abolish slavery, every state had to integrate schools and every state had to give black people and women the right to vote.

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    No they haven't. Has it been proven that homosexuality is anything other than a choice?
    Why should choice matter?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    States are not allowed to make UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS. That's why every state had to abolish slavery, every state had to integrate schools and every state had to give black people and women the right to vote.
    If it's unconstitutional, why has it not been challenged and overturned anywhere by now?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    Why should choice matter?
    Why shouldn't it?
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If it's unconstitutional, why has it not been challenged and overturned anywhere by now?
    These things take time, it took Jim Crow laws nearly a century before they were eradicated.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Why shouldn't it?
    Because religion is a choice, and you can't deny someone rights based on the choice of religion.
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    These things take time, it took Jim Crow laws nearly a century before they were eradicated.
    Why do they take time? Stop bitchin and giterdun.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    Because religion is a choice, and you can't deny someone rights based on the choice of religion.
    Right, and that's specifically protected in the Constitution.
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