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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    When have I argued against it specifically? The problem's I see with it are that most states now are no-fault and divorce basically can't be denied by either party to the marriage. I definitely would like to see divorce restricted more than it is.
    I didn't say that divorce would be restricted, nor would it be affected by that definition. It would go on as normal.

    Only second/third/fourth/etc marriages would become illegal using that definition. They'd be civil unions.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    I didn't say that divorce would be restricted, nor would it be affected by that definition. It would go on as normal.

    Only second/third/fourth/etc marriages would become illegal using that definition. They'd be civil unions.
    I don't see a problem with that from a legal perspective. Assuming civil unions had the same protections and rights as civil marriage.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

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    I was building a robot.

    Anyway, I think that's arguable.
    How is that not 100% true?

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I don't see a problem with that from a legal perspective. Assuming civil unions had the same protections and rights as civil marriage.
    So why don't you adopt that definition of marriage as the one you promote?

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    How is that not 100% true?
    Because it redefines marriage. Marriage has been universally accepted to mean marriage between man and a woman. In some cases multiple women (and I don't agree with that either). Marriage has never been between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    So why don't you adopt that definition of marriage as the one you promote?
    Because it's unnecessary at this point. It's definitely something I counsel on a personal level though.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Because it redefines marriage. Marriage has been universally accepted to mean marriage between man and a woman. In some cases multiple women (and I don't agree with that either). Marriage has never been between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Because it redefines marriage. Marriage has been universally accepted to mean marriage between man and a woman. In some cases multiple women (and I don't agree with that either). Marriage has never been between a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
    The constitution specifies the moral principles by which we are to evaluate and determine our laws (we agreed on this, you told me morality guides the const.); our constitution is our guide or else we could do what we want. Morals that concern 'proper' sex acts and definitions of marriage are not included in these specified moral principles. That's why people want an amendment to the constitution to ban gay marraige- in order to make it value sex/marriage, which it does not.

    Because all citizens are guaranteed equal protection understand the law, laws that are defined based on inequality are unconstitutional and therefore, must be overturned or redefined.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The constitution specifies the moral principles by which are to evaluate and determine our laws (we agreed on this, you told me morality guides the const.); our constitution is our guide or else we could do what we want. Morals that concern 'proper' sex acts and definitions of marriage are not included in these specified moral principles. That's why people want an amendment to the constitution to ban gay marraige- in order to make it value sex/marriage, which it does not.

    Because all citizens are guaranteed equal protection understand the law, laws that are defined based on inequality are unconstitutional and therefore, must be overturned or redefined.
    Any right or law not specifically included in the Constitution is reserved for the states and the people....most of them have made laws stating that marriage is between a man and a woman.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    I have no idea how these types of idiotic opinions don't get someone either banned or infracted. There are homosexual people on this board, and what this person is doing is not only insulting and disrespecting everything about them, but the fact that they can do it all repeatedly in every thread about gay marriage, gay adoption, or anything else regarding homosexuality is just plain stupid. I somehow doubt that we would extend the same courtesy to those idiots who maintain that African Americans, Jewish people, or any other ethnic group are 'wrong' or 'abnormal'. So why do we tolerate this blatant hatred?

    I could understand if they were debating on the causes of sexuality where both sides can engage in reasonable debate. Or maybe even a respectful discussion of how to stop kids from bullying other children who happen to be homosexual. These twits can't even manage that, because they do nothing but piss and moan about homosexuality being wrong, abnormal, or some other stupid nonsense that is nothing but disrespect and belittlement.

    It's hate speech - nothing more.
    What YOU said is hate speech. NOTHING MORE.
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