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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I didn't use the word deviant. What happened here is that CC asked me if I thought being Jewish and Left handed in America was deviant and I said yes, so long as you take away any negative connotation of the word. In your blind hatred of anyone that disagrees with you, you jump to blame me for the use of the word deviant.

    Is this what you call open minded?
    I don't do hatred.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't do hatred.
    You've been showing me a fair amount of it for some time. I'd say you do.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Meh, who cares.
    Presumably all the gay people...
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    You've been showing me a fair amount of it for some time. I'd say you do.
    How do you show hatred over an internet forum? Show me where I have been showing you hatred.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Absolutely. It may even be that common morality allows rape, murder, and vigilante justice or other things we are currently opposed to. the point is, there is no truly atheistic society to experiment on to find out how it works. There never has been.
    It seems more likely that there would be very little differences, depending on the background of the people forming the society of course.

    Religion hasn't really played much into ethics for the past hundred years or so, most of the time it has been struggling to catch up and reinvent itself to be more in line with acceptable common morality.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If it is fear alone you are relying on to maintain order and discipline, then you will surely end in revolution. A very cursory examination of human history will show you that.
    I completely disagree. First, most people are motivated by fear. Second, it's not the type of fear that causes revolutions; it's not the fear of some horrible tyrannical government that works against the will of people. In the words of Machievelli, 'a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred'. There is a difference between a government being hated by its citizens and being feared by them. It's fear that human beings don't mind having because "if I'm afraid to kill someone, then other people are afraid to kill me."

    We are able to recognize the practicality of law to civilization. It's not something causes revolution.

    People go against their morality all of the time, obviously and in public. The trick is they only go against the parts that aren't punishable by law; fear and recognition of the requirement of law are what maintain it.
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    It's too bad they couldn't pass that bill. It's the right thing to do. And we as a nation just need to accept this and move on. There are so many other things we need to be paying attention to. Seriously.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How do you show hatred over an internet forum? Show me where I have been showing you hatred.
    Uhm, gee, with your words...
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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm, gee, with your words...
    Trust me, you aren't worth hating. I wouldn't waste the energy.

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    Re: Maryland Gay Marriage Bill sent back to cmte. Shelved for this year at least.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I completely disagree.
    What society has survived that did so? Imperial Russia? France? Rome?

    First, most people are motivated by fear. Second, it's not the type of fear that causes revolutions; it's not the fear of some horrible tyrannical government that works against the will of people. In the words of Machievelli, 'a prince ought to inspire fear in such a way that, if he does not win love, he avoids hatred'. There is a difference between a government being hated by its citizens and being feared by them. It's fear that human beings don't mind having because "if I'm afraid to kill someone, then other people are afraid to kill me."

    We are able to recognize the practicality of law to civilization. It's not something causes revolution.

    People go against their morality all of the time, obviously and in public. The trick is they only go against the parts that aren't punishable by law; fear and recognition of the requirement of law are what maintain it.
    I'm really rather amazed that you are attempting to push a government that relies on fear to rule. How is it that you think that is even possible in a Democracy?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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