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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

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    Brad was trying to save the lives of fellow soldiers and civillians by exposing the corruption involved in US foreign policy.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Crowley spoke out of turn, and did not express the administration's view on the matter. Crowley resigns as State Department spokesman – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    P.J. Crowley abruptly resigned Sunday as State Department spokesman over controversial comments he made about the Bradley Manning case.

    Sources close to the matter said the resignation, first reported by CNN, came under pressure from the White House, where officials were furious about his suggestion that the Obama administration is mistreating Manning, the Army private who is being held in solitary confinement in Quantico, Virginia, under suspicion that he leaked highly classified State Department cables to the website WikiLeaks.... Nevertheless, Crowley's political fate was sealed Friday when Obama was asked at a White House news conference about his comments regarding Manning.

    Obama revealed that he had asked Pentagon officials "whether or not the procedures that have been taken in terms of (Manning's) confinement are appropriate and are meeting our basic standards."

    In a comment that drew howls of protest from liberals, Obama added that Pentagon officials "assure me that they are. I can't go into details about some of their concerns, but some of this has to do with Private Manning's safety as well."
    Note to Crowley: Before speaking for the Obama administration, you should probably find out what the Obama administration actually thinks about the topic in question before you, you know, open your freaking mouth.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

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    PJ Crowley - Bradley Manning - BBC

    Is the treatment of him reasonable? Clearly the White House doesn't believe so. Is it intended to be punitive, preventive or aimed at ensuring he is totally isolated from the outside world? Is it overkill given the absence of threat he now constitutes.
    Manning's treatment is ridiculous, he is now forced to sleep naked "as part of a 'prevention of injury watch.'" How is the man going to harm himself when an eye is kept on him 24/7? It makes no sense.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    Most of the cables were not top secret clearance, so you think you're being a bit fascist?
    No. He released sensitive information to a group whose stated goal is harming the USA. That makes him a traitor, traitors deserve death.

    It's quite simple.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    No. He released sensitive information to a group whose stated goal is harming the USA.
    All things fair.

    Please show me where it is Assange's and his organization STATED GOAL that he wants to harm the US.

    I don't seem to remember him saying that.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    All things fair.

    Please show me where it is Assange's and his organization STATED GOAL that he wants to harm the US.

    I don't seem to remember him saying that.
    In 2006, Mr. Assange wrote a pair of essays, "State and Terrorist Conspiracies" and "Conspiracy as Governance." He sees the U.S. as an authoritarian conspiracy. "To radically shift regime behavior we must think clearly and boldly for if we have learned anything, it is that regimes do not want to be changed," he writes. "Conspiracies take information about the world in which they operate," he writes, and "pass it around the conspirators and then act on the result."

    His central plan is that leaks will restrict the flow of information among officials—"conspirators" in his view—making government less effective. Or, as Mr. Assange puts it, "We can marginalize a conspiracy's ability to act by decreasing total conspiratorial power until it is no longer able to understand, and hence respond effectively to its environment. . . . An authoritarian conspiracy that cannot think efficiently cannot act to preserve itself."
    Crovitz: Julian Assange, Information Anarchist - WSJ.com

    Sorry Jet, but the man's goals are to harm the USA because he doesn't LIKE the USA.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Crovitz: Julian Assange, Information Anarchist - WSJ.com

    Sorry Jet, but the man's goals are to harm the USA because he doesn't LIKE the USA.
    Seems to me his beef is with the US government, not the US people itself.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Seems to me his beef is with the US government, not the US people itself.
    His goal is to harm the US Government, which harms the USA...
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    His goal is to harm the US Government, which harms the USA...
    I guess.

    But you ain't so hot about the US government yourself...

    I mean hell you even used one of his cables to attack the Obama admin...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...r-secrets.html

    Which was never confirmed...

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I guess.

    But you ain't so hot about the US government yourself...

    I mean hell you even used one of his cables to attack the Obama admin...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...r-secrets.html

    Which was never confirmed...
    Jet, I dislike Obama's approach, and since the info was OUT THERE...

    Big difference.
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