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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    What's more relevant than what I think about his treatment is that the White House believes that treatment is 'stupid'.
    THIS president would be following a completely different course if Manning was a muslim.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What is it about his treatment that you find objectionable? As I understand it, their reasonong for stripping him at night is solely based on his repeated smart ass comments about hanging killing himself with his underwear.

    Heres a simple reality. When you join the military there are certain things you can do and certain things you cant. He did one of those things you really a lot CANT do. No one is beating him or torturing him.
    Unfortunately...................

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    How many people do you figure have been killed because this traitor broke the law?
    Fewer than those who died through Libby and Rove's treason. Remind me, are they in Leavenworth?
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Fewer than those who died through Libby and Rove's treason. Remind me, are they in Leavenworth?
    How did Libby and Rove commit treason, again? I musta missed that one.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    It strikes me that the treatment of Manning is severe, possibly disproportionate, and verging on the cruel and unusual. I am minded of the contrast between the treatment of Manning, accused of passing information to Wikileaks but with no evidence that his behaviour has caused any harm to US interests, and the case of Scooter Libby and Karl Rove deliberately revealing the identity of an active, undercover CIA operative in an act of political revenge and which caused the deaths of several US agents. Which of the two is the greater treason?
    You mean besides the fact that it was apparently the wikileaks revelation of hte excesses of the royal family of Tunisia that caused his overthrow that in turn ignited the entertaining show all across the middle east that has led to a 30% rise in gasoline prices in the US?

    Not to mention the fact that that Plame broad was outed by an inconsequential junior-tier flack not directly connected with the VP and acting on his own lack of authority?

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How did Libby and Rove commit treason, again? I musta missed that one.
    No, you didn't.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Fewer than those who died through Libby and Rove's treason. Remind me, are they in Leavenworth?
    Can you define the specific acts of treason, the laws violated, the indictments passed and the convictions obtained?

    This Manning traitor hasn't been to trial yet, but there's little doubt an honest jury in an honest trial would convict him. Also see my above post that linked wikileaks to the murderous unrest in the middle east.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, you didn't.
    Should I issue a trufer alert?

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    Can you define the specific acts of treason, the laws violated, the indictments passed and the convictions obtained?

    This Manning traitor hasn't been to trial yet, but there's little doubt an honest jury in an honest trial would convict him. Also see my above post that linked wikileaks to the murderous unrest in the middle east.
    I bet Manning won't ever see the inside of a court room. He'll be offered a sweetheart plea deal and just go to solitary confinement; anything so that he doesn't testify. He didn't do this by himself. An Army private doesn't have access to that much high level information.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet Manning won't ever see the inside of a court room. He'll be offered a sweetheart plea deal and just go to solitary confinement; anything so that he doesn't testify. He didn't do this by himself. An Army private doesn't have access to that much high level information.
    While there is certainly truth in your words (consider that it wasn't the general running Abu Ghraib who went to prison, but her privates), it's also true that enlisted men in the right places have access to everything if they're not watched.

    Manning wasn't watched.

    Which isn't to say that heads at the State Department shouldn't roll, including the head of the State Department, or that heads at the top of the DoD shouldn't roll.

    But you're right and they'll likely scapegoat this guy and it's possible to foresee that cute little Bradley might have an accident in the not too distant future.

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