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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

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    "Crowley was the face and voice of the Obama administration on the full-range of diplomatic issues and is a former Air Force colonel."
    He's now also a former spokesman for Obama.

    BHO doesn't take kindly to criticism.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What I find interesting is that the people who are complaining about his treatment are the same ones who would complain if he came to harm by not taking these safeguards with him.
    You are correct. They would be doing that while the rest of us would be saying at least that rat traitor saved the tax payers some money by offing himself. The army puts soldiers on suicide watch when that soldier says they are suicidal or does something to indicate that they are suicidal.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    a bit of info for the people in this thread gung ho for punishment ...

    "Crowley was the face and voice of the Obama administration on the full-range of diplomatic issues and is a former Air Force colonel."



    Protesters demonstrate in support of WikiLeaks suspect Manning

    Protesters demonstrate in support of WikiLeaks suspect Manning - CNN.com

    If you had wanted to support your own argument, there possibly isn't a worst way you could have done it.

    Those Code Pink nuts are the equivalent of leftwing birthers. Would've been fine if you had just mentioned Crowley.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Perhaps what Obama is actually doing is discussing with the military and judicial personnel in charge exactly how Manning is being held, why he is being held that way, and the potential for harm if he was not held that way. Why, Obama might have even been peppy enough to research whether Manning was being treated exactly the same as other prisoners in the same detention facility held under the same conditions. He might possibly have been assured that the treatment was absolutely fair, absolutely necessary and...*gasp!*... been given reasons that were both logical and acceptable to him.

    ...And then, as president of the entire United States-both-liberal-and-conservative-under-somebody's-God, he actually decided that military and judicial matters should actually be entrusted to military and judicial personnel, and not be flung on a partisian wheel of fortune while a bunch of rabid right-left wing hucksters hitch darts to see whose party platform wins the military/judicial booby prize.

    What a concept.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The GOP is courting me though. I get daily emails from them asking me to join.
    Well then, Kane is right. You are a miserable excuse for a liberal.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Yeah cause pro-longed solitary confinement is really going to help reduce the suicide risk...

    More than likely they are isolating him as punishment. He should be tried for crimes already, or maybe they haven't because they're waiting for Assange to be handed over to Sweden, a.k.a the U.S.

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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Jeez, you could show some gratitude. You captured them, if you resent paying for them to be relocated, keep 'em yourselves. I've no idea where they are, nor do I need to. I'm sure the authorities will be keeping an eye on them if they need keeping an eye on.
    Hmmm, last I checked Spain helped in the Iraq, and Afghanistan wars. Yes I resent having to bribe hypocrites like you to put your money where your mouth is. And just don't let them near the train stations eh?....Nice.


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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Seems to me his beef is with the US government, not the US people itself.
    Ya kinda moved the goal posts a little here Jet.
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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Yeah cause pro-longed solitary confinement is really going to help reduce the suicide risk...

    More than likely they are isolating him as punishment. He should be tried for crimes already, or maybe they haven't because they're waiting for Assange to be handed over to Sweden, a.k.a the U.S.

    I'd prefer a firing squad. But if he off's himself and saves us some money, well, we are in need of that savings.....


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    Re: PJ Crowley: Bradley Manning's treatment by US 'stupid'

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmm, last I checked Spain helped in the Iraq, and Afghanistan wars. Yes I resent having to bribe hypocrites like you to put your money where your mouth is. And just don't let them near the train stations eh?....Nice.

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