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Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

The hearings will hopefully shed light on some of the more shadowy things going on inside the Muslim community. How can more information be a bad thing? Knowledge is power. The more you know about a thing the better prepared you are to confront a thing.

here is how it can be a bad thing
the muslims - who may now believe they are being unfairly singled out - may be less inclined to expose the prospective terrorists within their group than if we were evenhanded about this matter

the muslims abroad are watching. and if they see that we impose a double standard against the interests of America's muslims then it will confirm what osama bin forgotten has been expressing in his fatwas. such actions will provide him more credibility and less for America
 
Any Muslim's opinion of the United States is irrelevant. I am so tired of everyone tiptoeing around these kooks.
 
here is how it can be a bad thing
the muslims - who may now believe they are being unfairly singled out - may be less inclined to expose the prospective terrorists within their group than if we were evenhanded about this matter

the muslims abroad are watching. and if they see that we impose a double standard against the interests of America's muslims then it will confirm what osama bin forgotten has been expressing in his fatwas. such actions will provide him more credibility and less for America


O you mean like every non-Muslim is singled out in Muslim countries worldwide. The majority of Americans don't care what these people think.
 
Any Muslim's opinion of the United States is irrelevant. I am so tired of everyone tiptoeing around these kooks.

glad you don't work for the state department
of course you would have fit in well during the dicknbush regime
 
glad you don't work for the state department
of course you would have fit in well during the dicknbush regime

How do you know I don't work for the State Department?
 
You don't solve the problem of radicalization by attacking the radials themselves. Those are the young people you rightfully want to help. You have to look to the causes of radicalization. Poverty, inequality, overpopulation, oppression, these are the things that lead to radicalization. Any hearing that was truly addressing radicalization would look at those factors, not the "infiltration of America mosques" and that sort of racist claptrap. That is why these hearings ring so false, and smack of racism.

In other words, we need bigger govt to fold these (for the radicals) into our welfare state.
 
If you are a Muslim and you have an opinion about the U.S., said opinion is irrelevant. Is that clearer?

Not really...a Muslim as opposed to who else? Just whom is it irrelevant to? If it's about Muslims who are Americans (which this discussion has been about all along), shouldn't their opinion count?
 
To keep things on a factual basis, the transcripts from the hearing can be found here.
 
If you had any sense of history you'd have known that McCarthy failed to substantiate the vast majority of his accusations. He even targeted George C. Marshall, for Chrissakes, one of America's greatest generals. Talk about a witch hunt.

holy cow. he was a sad alcoholic. most of his accusations were never proved, and he was censured. what a great man.

why am i not suprised that you would support, defend and advocate such a character as this:
Joseph McCarthy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

getting back on topic
if the congress would investigate the Christian community for the terrorism that eminates from its members just as it has done the muslim community, then no obvious double standard would be recognized. but since it did not hold a hearing about the Christian community's disproportionate number of terrorists, and the terroristic acts they perpetrate, while encouraging the Christian community to self enforece its membersship, the hearing can only be found hypocritical. more so since the one leading the inquiry is himself a professed, outspoken advocate for (the IRA brand of) terrorism

Two words folks: Alger. Hiss.

History is a wonderful thing. Especially, if you are actually aware of the historical facts that make up the big picture.

Stillballin, my man, you need to go to the school that you got your history degree from and get your money back.
 
Any Muslim's opinion of the United States is irrelevant. I am so tired of everyone tiptoeing around these kooks.

Thank you for dropping by and sharing your bigotry with us. We are richer because of this contribution.
 
Thank you for dropping by and sharing your bigotry with us. We are richer because of this contribution.

Why is looking glass a bigot? Or, is that really the only argument you have to defend Islamofacists with?
 
I wonder if these hearings were announced about Christianity if people here would react the same way.
 
I wonder if these hearings were announced about Christianity if people here would react the same way.

They would if people see killing other people as being a bad thing no matter which religion does it. :shrug:
 
Did those people actually SAY those things? If so then those are extremely stupid. If those quotes are taken out of context, then there's something wrong with your source.

The only stupid things I heard came out of the mouths of Dems. Their speeches were prepared and they stuck to them even though they weren't making much sense by the time they gave them. What they thought was going to be going on didn't happen at all, but they stuck to their speeches. 2 of the worst were from Texas.:(
 
I wonder if these hearings were announced about Christianity if people here would react the same way.

If Christians were launching attack after attack and killing thousands of American citizens, I would.

Um, are they?
 
I don't think the hearings themselves are a bad thing. I do think focusing SOLELY on the religious issue gets us sidetracked about the root causes of terrorism and how people become susceptible to being indoctrinated. However many have also focused on the fact that these hearings increase the negative media perception towards Muslims in general and may further skew people's view of Islam as a whole rather than just the radicals. <--Not saying those are my beliefs because I didn't watch the proceedings, but those are the concerns of some people.

If you had watched you would know that wasn't the focus. The focus wasn't about catching terrorists, it was on learning why radicalization happens and how to prevent it.
Funny, I came away with a much more positive view of Muslims. I was mislead into believing moderate Muslims weren't being effected by the few radicals and that they chose to ignore them. That's not true at all and they want help, though it will mostly be up to the muslim community to fix the problem.
 
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