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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

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    I'm not saying it's the only determining factor.

    But it certainly doesn't help in countries that don't have the ability to educate all of their kids...

    What I'm trying to show you, is that the fact that they're muslim is not the only determining factor in becoming a terrorist.
    Whose fault is that?

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

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    What they want to do is prevent the radicalization. Then there would be no need for the government to "catch" them at all.
    I get that, but you can't completely prevent fringe members in religion, politics or really any other group. I understand that some prevention can be done and that it's necessary (we both agree on that). My problem is, I have yet to see any evidence that the type of prevention/outreach that Muslim communities are supposed to do isn't already happening simply by the fact that they speak out against radical Islam constantly. There will always be members that the government needs to catch.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm not saying it's the only determining factor.

    But it certainly doesn't help in countries that don't have the ability to educate all of their kids...

    What I'm trying to show you, is that the fact that they're muslim is not the only determining factor in becoming a terrorist.
    It may not be the only determining factor, but it is the one being exploited by our enemies now. To fail to address the radical Muslim threat in today's world, is to bury your head in the sand IMHO.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

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    Whose fault is that?
    It's not necessarily about fault, but it just is what it is. Not everyone can be rich, not all countries will provide protections for their people, and not all people have the opportunity to change their destiny. What burns me is 1,000 years ago the Middle East and it's people were so much better off - they were into sciences, astrology, astronomy, mathmatics, language and arts. I still think they have the opportunity to make themselves better but I'm not sure why it is at the macro level they don't.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I get that, but you can't completely prevent fringe members in religion, politics or really any other group. I understand that some prevention can be done and that it's necessary (we both agree on that). My problem is, I have yet to see any evidence that the type of prevention/outreach that Muslim communities are supposed to do isn't already happening simply by the fact that they speak out against radical Islam constantly. There will always be members that the government needs to catch.
    Perhaps you cannot "completely prevent" young people of any group from doing terrible things but we can certainly try, and holding an inquiry into the problem is often the first step. That anyone would be offended that the question even be raised only demonstrates that too many of these protesters are not serious people.

    They do not "speak out against radical Islam constantly". In fact many who do are having their lives threatened and must live under constant guard.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    It's not necessarily about fault, but it just is what it is. Not everyone can be rich, not all countries will provide protections for their people, and not all people have the opportunity to change their destiny. What burns me is 1,000 years ago the Middle East and it's people were so much better off - they were into sciences, astrology, astronomy, mathmatics, language and arts. I still think they have the opportunity to make themselves better but I'm not sure why it is at the macro level they don't.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps you cannot "completely prevent" young people of any group from doing terrible things but we can certainly try, and holding an inquiry into the problem is often the first step. That anyone would be offended that the question even be raised only demonstrates that too many of these protesters are not serious people.

    They do not "speak out against radical Islam constantly". In fact many who do are having their lives threatened and must live under constant guard.
    I agree with should try. I really do. I don't want another attack, particularly a homegrown one. They do speak out about it a lot, whenever a radical American Muslim is found in the U.S. many organizations immediately condemn.

    Although I wouldn't blame if they stopped speaking out, it's falling on deaf ears and making them more of a target by people who burn their Korans.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

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    Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans - latimes.com

    Well I hope this article meets the guidelines. I'm not sure why a bonafide newspaper feels the need to wrap the word radicalization in quotation marks.

    I watched the whole hearing and found it very enlightening. The Democrats to a man made fools of themselves as far as I'm concerned. They are complete slaves to the idiocy of political correctness. I am convinced that if they were captured and tortured by an "Islamist" as they are now calling Islamofascist jihadis they would apologize for not holding still.

    NOTE: Moderator edit to reduce quoted text to what is permissible under Breaking News/Fair Use guidelines.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I agree with should try. I really do. I don't want another attack, particularly a homegrown one. They do speak out about it a lot, whenever a radical American Muslim is found in the U.S. many organizations immediately condemn.

    Although I wouldn't blame if they stopped speaking out, it's falling on deaf ears and making them more of a target by people who burn their Korans.

    Oh puhleeze! Cut the demonizing would ya? I haven't seen any outbreaks of anti Muslim violence here.


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