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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    ironically, you sound pretty intolerant of King's position.
    Not really ironic. I support Islam and stand by it, he does not. Where's the irony? I'm "intolerant of intolerance" or some such garbage? If that's your point the I'd say you don't really get how tolerance works.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Well it's obvious that a few here didn't watch it.
    The only down side was a few dems screaming for investigations into the KKK and Christian radicals.
    The three Muslims who testifed couldn't have been more grateful for the hearings and want them to continue.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I agree with some of what you're saying Guy. I'm don't believe it was by design though.
    How do you mean? This is the design of terrorists coming to fruition more perfectly than they could have planned, I'll grant you that. Who could have known that so many American racists would so gleefully join in and take up their part of Al Qaeda's plot?

    But yes, basically, it was by design. That's how the terrorism as a strategy works. Terrorism is a way of calling attention to a cause when there is adversary is overwhelmingly powerful. But terrorism itself is only a prelude to changing the theater, by which I mean in this case changing the framing of the conflict from America vs. Fringe Extremist Group to America vs. Islam itself. We have to pray that reframing does not happen, or the terrorists really will have won. But I see it happening before my very eyes.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Well it's obvious that a few here didn't watch it.
    The only down side was a few dems screaming for investigations into the KKK and Christian radicals.
    The three Muslims who testifed couldn't have been more grateful for the hearings and want them to continue.
    I didn't watch it, but I can kind of see both sides of the issue here.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans - latimes.com

    Well I hope this article meets the guidelines. I'm not sure why a bonafide newspaper feels the need to wrap the word radicalization in quotation marks.

    I watched the whole hearing and found it very enlightening. The Democrats to a man made fools of themselves as far as I'm concerned. They are complete slaves to the idiocy of political correctness. I am convinced that if they were captured and tortured by an "Islamist" as they are now calling Islamofascist jihadis they would apologize for not holding still.
    It's unfortunate that the Dems have members like Sheila Jackson Lee on the committee; not the best mind to have involved nor the best face of the Dem Party.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Not really ironic. I support Islam and stand by it, he does not. Where's the irony? I'm "intolerant of intolerance" or some such garbage? If that's your point the I'd say you don't really get how tolerance works.
    A bigot is a person intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions while exhibiting animosity toward those of differing beliefs.

    so maybe you shouldn't throw the bigot/xenophobe card while totally surrounded by glass.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    The only down side was a few dems screaming for investigations into the KKK and Christian radicals.
    I like what Jon Stewart had to say about this argument: "Yeah, those hearing were really unfair to all the moderate klansmen."

    The point being that if this had been a hearing on Al Qaeda, it would be one thing. But holding a hearing on the religion of Islam itself is obscene.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Here we go -- the ol' "quick, change the subject and avoid addressing the issue" -- the bold fringe-right move of RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!
    Well, if some will go claiming racism, bigotry and xenophobia - I want to make sure who all is being included. Are these 2007 folks included or do they get to opt out because of political ideology?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I didn't watch it, but I can kind of see both sides of the issue here.
    agreed.

    there is reason for concern, but we should also be concerned of overpaying the issue for political gain.

    everyone should be concerned with the rise of extremism in our prisons.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    How do you mean? This is the design of terrorists coming to fruition more perfectly than they could have planned, I'll grant you that. Who could have known that so many American racists would so gleefully join in and take up their part of Al Qaeda's plot?

    But yes, basically, it was by design. That's how the terrorism as a strategy works. Terrorism is a way of calling attention to a cause when there is adversary is overwhelmingly powerful. But terrorism itself is only a prelude to changing the theater, by which I mean in this case changing the framing of the conflict from America vs. Fringe Extremist Group to America vs. Islam itself. We have to pray that reframing does not happen, or the terrorists really will have won. But I see it happening before my very eyes.
    I think you're giving Al-Qaeda way too much credit here. I doubt they had all of these calculations in mind. In reality all AQ wanted to achieve in committing 9/11 was that they thought they could get us to withdraw our military forces from the Middle East and stop supporting Israel. Clearly they miscalculated, although we haven't done ourselves any favors. I doubt that it was their master plan to put America against all of Islam, but clearly the spate of Islamic terrorism in recent decades have colored and skewed the West's view of Islam for sure. I think it's a temporary thing that will pass (even if it takes awhile to do so), just like discrimination against Japanese and Chinese-Americans. Clearly AQ itself isn't really better off after doing all this, so I think it's a real big stretch to say "this is what they wanted all along." They certainly haven't done themselves any favors.
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