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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why is looking glass a bigot? Or, is that really the only argument you have to defend Islamofacists with?
    Let's start with the fact that even Looking Glass admits he is a bigot, which you may or may not know is someone that applies the attributes of a small subset of a group to the entire group. Suggesting that all Muslims are anything but Muslims is quintessential bigotry.

    BTW, Islamofacists is a vague term invented by our friends a Fox. Thanks for displaying your gullibility.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I watched the whole thing too>
    Good, then tell us how many FBI agents were called to testify.

    How many Homeland Security reps were called?

    How many national security experts on islamic extremists??

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    It was a joke -- political grandstanding. -- It achieves the opposite what it desires.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Good, then tell us how many FBI agents were called to testify.

    How many Homeland Security reps were called?

    How many national security experts on islamic extremists??

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    It was a joke -- political grandstanding. -- It achieves the opposite what it desires.
    That’s based on the assumption that these politicians are being forthright with their desires. If they were merely looking to tap into the wellspring of fear and hatred of Muslims and turn it into political capital, they could have done a much worse job.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Let's start with the fact that even Looking Glass admits he is a bigot, which you may or may not know is someone that applies the attributes of a small subset of a group to the entire group. Suggesting that all Muslims are anything but Muslims is quintessential bigotry.

    BTW, Islamofacists is a vague term invented by our friends a Fox. Thanks for displaying your gullibility.
    Wow! That would make every Libbo in the world a bigot.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    These hearings are a tremendous success for all the racists, xenophobes and bigots in this country. The rest of us should not be celebrating.
    Liberals are great at at passing out hate name calling and just being wrong. Had this hearing been Muslims it might have been for bigots, but racist? I think not.

    Muslim is not a race brainiac. and Radical declares what the hearing was about.

    Radicals which make their version of Muslim into a cult not a religion.

    Liberals need a better education, but it would not help because liberals like to go on attack mode and to help with the truth or facts.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Good, then tell us how many FBI agents were called to testify.

    How many Homeland Security reps were called?

    How many national security experts on islamic extremists??

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    It was a joke -- political grandstanding. -- It achieves the opposite what it desires.
    It seemed to me, these hearings weren't really about homeland security or the FBI. It was about learning about the hows and whys of the radicalization of our American youth. It was about prevention. It wasn't about catching and arresting radicals.
    As I said earlier I came away with a different view of moderate American Muslims. They are as much victims of the radicals, if not more than other Americans. They need our support to stop it.
    I don't know what Homeland Security or the FBI could have had to offer to these hearings. Also, that seems to me it would have just been more ammo for the media to attack King.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans - latimes.com

    Well I hope this article meets the guidelines. I'm not sure why a bonafide newspaper feels the need to wrap the word radicalization in quotation marks.

    I watched the whole hearing and found it very enlightening. The Democrats to a man made fools of themselves as far as I'm concerned. They are complete slaves to the idiocy of political correctness. I am convinced that if they were captured and tortured by an "Islamist" as they are now calling Islamofascist jihadis they would apologize for not holding still.

    NOTE: Moderator edit to reduce quoted text to what is permissible under Breaking News/Fair Use guidelines.

    IMO, it was a pointless conference. There is no need to have a talk about Islamic extremism in the US, but I do agree that the Muslim community should go and work to combat stereotypes and general ignorance.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    It seemed to me, these hearings weren't really about homeland security or the FBI. It was about learning about the hows and whys of the radicalization of our American youth.
    The radicalization of youth has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with violence-prone people.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I don't know what Homeland Security or the FBI could have had to offer to these hearings.
    Um. Facts about which groups present a legitimate domestic threat.

    Do you actually think that any semi-radical mosque on American soil is not bugged and monitored 24/7?? Think about it.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    So what's really the problem? Everybody agrees radicalism in the name of Islam is bad. The fight is between people who believe Muslims and Islam in general are comparable to the KKK or Nazis on one side, and those who believe such a kind of broad-brushing is as much a problem as radical islam, if not more, on the other.

    My two cents: The people who do it may have honorable intentions (rejection of radicalism), but broad-brush condemnation of Islam as radical in general smells like outgroup homogeneity bias. Out-group homogeneity bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Personally, I know quite a few Muslims, and none of them is radical.

    Justabubba exemplified that by pointing to a hypothetical situation when Christians in general are blamed for terrorist acts committed in the name of their religion. When a Christian becomes radical, people would hardly condemn Christianity in a broad-brush manner for these deeds. That's because Christianity is the dominant religion in our societies and everybody immediately understands how absurd such broad-brushing is. Islam is alien enough for many not to enjoy this benefit.

    But then, there is much evidence suggesting radical attitudes are indeed more common among Muslims, than they are among Christians. Still I don't believe discriminating Muslims in general is helpful when it comes to addressing and solving the problems with radicals that actually exist. Also, radicals among Muslims are bad enough, and indiscriminate condemnation of Muslims is another, similar type of radicalism that's just as bad. It's bad enough when there are radical Muslim suicide bombers, we don't need to add radical islamophobes setting mosques on fire.
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