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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I wonder if these hearings were announced about Christianity if people here would react the same way.
    They would if Christians had flown planes into buildings in NYC.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Peter King is quite possibly the biggest douche in Congress. My God, what an ass. What exactly does he expect to learn from these hearings? What are the policy implications...round up all Muslims and put them in internment camps?
    For one, he wants to help people like this and learn from them. This guy testified at the hearing and you can read his testimony here. He was very grateful to King to be given a platform to speak.



    Hearing on

    and this is what he is doing for his community.

    Muslims campaign to save Somali-American teens

    Abdirizak Bihi, center, walks in Minneapolis with members of a Somali youth soccer team as the group solicited donations for a team trip. Bihi is driven to save at-risk teens by the memory of his 18-year-old nephew, who was recruited to fight in Somalia and died there.
    Working at all hours, they are waging their own personal jihad, hoping to win the hearts and minds of Somali teens being tempted to embrace a radical ideology that for many is only a keystroke or a YouTube clip away.
    "They want to steal our youth," Bihi says.
    For both, the task is urgent. Already, about 20 Somali-Americans from Minnesota have been recruited by the terrorist group al-Shabaab to go overseas. Five of them, including Bihi's teenage nephew, have died while training and fighting in Somalia's bloody civil war. One died while killing others in a suicide attack
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Anyone who doesn't want more clarity and information has an agenda and therefore no objectivity. There is no debate when objectivity is absent.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Why am I not surprised by the support for this blatant display of government thuggery? I kinda wonder what the reactions would be if there were hearings on what radicalizes gun owners, and other absurd bull****. It's also somewhat of a shock of the praises for King when it was only two months ago he was calling for gun control.

    44 - Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) calls for gun-control legislation aimed at protecting lawmakers

    It needs to be said, before I get into the history of these efforts, that "McCarthyism" – as it is now known, after the most infamous of its practitioners – was preceded by a left-wing effort to demonize – and prosecute – elements of the political right, and if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then no one can doubt the sincerity of Tail-Gunner Joe and his epigones. In the run-up to World War II, and afterwards, the political left in this country launched a crusade to link conservative opponents of US entry into the war with Hitler and Nazi Germany. The best-selling book Under Cover, by pro-Communist John Roy Carlon, a.k.a. Avedis Derounian, was a crude and highly effective smear against the anti-interventionist movement, using every trick in the book to tie in antiwar activists affiliated with the conservative America First Committee with the German American Bund and other pro-Nazi groups. Congressional hearings were an important prop in this pro-war, anti-conservative campaign: indeed, the first manifestation of the notorious House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), which became famous for its efforts purporting to expose Communist activities in the US, was the "Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities," chaired by the left-wing Rep. Samuel Dickstein (D-Florida). Dickstein took his show on the road, traveling to cities across the United States where testimony was heard implicating prominent conservatives in a number of fantastic plots, including the "Business Plot" – a purported scheme by big business to instigate a military coup against Franklin Delano Roosevelt. These activities culminated, in 1944, in the trial of 30 right-wingers for plotting to overthrow the government of the United States in tandem with Nazi Germany, the so-called Sedition Trial, which ended in a fiasco.
    The Return of the Witch-Hunters by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    How the heck could anyone give any credibility to an IRA supporter complaining about terrorism?
    We're talking about politicians here aren't we?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    We're talking about politicians here aren't we?
    I personally don't read a lot into the whole IRA thing, but I can definitely see why people seem to think King is a hypocrite for supporting terrorists in someone else's country.

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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I personally don't read a lot into the whole IRA thing, but I can definitely see why people seem to think King is a hypocrite for supporting terrorists in someone else's country.
    I can see it but the IRA and Al Qaeda are two entirely different animals.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I can see it but the IRA and Al Qaeda are two entirely different animals.
    There are differences obviously, but at the end of the day terrorism is terrorism wherever its found. If you kill innocents you should be condemned, no matter the cause. That's just my two cents.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Why am I not surprised by the support for this blatant display of government thuggery? I kinda wonder what the reactions would be if there were hearings on what radicalizes gun owners, and other absurd bull****. It's also somewhat of a shock of the praises for King when it was only two months ago he was calling for gun control.

    44 - Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) calls for gun-control legislation aimed at protecting lawmakers



    The Return of the Witch-Hunters by Justin Raimondo -- Antiwar.com
    So you despise King. Forget about him. The hearings aren't about him. Try having an open mind.

    http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...20Jasser_0.pdf
    Some have criticized these proceedings saying it is not the government’s role to do that. As I sit
    here in the people’s House, I am reminded that we are a government of the people whose
    entire foundation, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights and especially the Establishment clause,
    rested on the ability of our citizenry to have open dialogue about any issue affecting our society
    probably most important of which was religious freedom.
    Yet as we have seen with the lead up to these hearings, we are barely able to come together to
    have an open discussion of the problem. This is not a left versus right issue or a case of
    infringement on the rights of a minority. This needs to be a serious assessment of the threat
    posed to our national security. The course of Muslim radicalization in the United States over the
    past two years makes it exceedingly difficult for anyone to assert with a straight face that in
    America we Muslims do not have a radicalization problem.
    From my perspective in our years of work of reform at the American Islamic Forum for
    Democracy and a lifetime of dedication to America, my faith, and my family, I see radicalization
    as my problem and as a Muslim I am not offended if you tell me that. In the end countering
    radicalization should be the obsession of every Muslim because if we do not what will be our
    legacy for our children?
    So I come to you as a devout Muslim, and to giveyou a so far little heard viewpoint from that
    Islamic space, that shows our “diversity”. Those that have been struggling to get our leadership
    in mosques to reform and do the heavy lifting of modernization and enlightenment have been
    faced with too many obstacles inside and outside the Muslim community.
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    Re: Muslim 'radicalization' hearing a success, say Rep. Peter King, Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    So you despise King. Forget about him. The hearings aren't about him. Try having an open mind.

    http://homeland.house.gov/sites/home...20Jasser_0.pdf
    Not shocking that you buy the government's bull****, not one bit. These are nothing but witch hunts cloaked in touchy feely language to make appear more acceptable.
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