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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Obama is being intelligent.
    The Government is slowing pushing out the rebels. They may not last.

    If Gaddafi survives. France and UK have lost all economic ties. Spain isn't looking too good.

    US is fine being neutral.
    We shouldn't have economic ties with that monster. We should ALL cut him off... France is making the right move on moral grounds if nothing else...
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    The White House moved quickly to distance itself from National Intelligence Director James Clapper’s controversial statements on Libya, China and Russia today – with a top Obama aide calling Clapper’s comments a “static” analysis.

    Clapper, speaking to a congressional committee on Thursday, dropped jaws by asserting “over the longer term … the [Qadhafi] regime will prevail” – contradicting the carefully calibrated pro-Libyan rebel message Obama’s national security team was seeking to project.

    Already off message, the nation’s top intelligence official went on to describe both China and Russia as “mortal [threats]” to American securityon the very day Vice President Joe Biden was meeting with Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

    National Security Adviser Tom Donilon said he still has confidence in Clapper – but he told reporters on a White House conference call that Clapper’s conclusion about the outcome in Libya was “a static and one-dimensional assessment.”

    Administration analysts have “come to various conclusions about the various advantages that the Qadhafy regime has … and [what] opposition has.” The “multi-dimensional” view of the situation shows that pro-democracy rebels are still strong and worth courting as potential allies, Donilon told reporters on the call, which was intended to outline President Obama’s strategic vision in the region.

    He also said that Clapper’s remarks before the Senate Intelligence Committee were intended to provide an unvarnished description of the current state of military affairs as the regime pushes a counterattack against rebels in key oil ports.
    White House distances itself from Clapper remarks - Glenn Thrush and MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

    are you sure these people know what they're doing?

    remember blair, mcchrystal, jones and his waterbugs?

    embarrassing

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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Obama could take a lesson here.
    I dunno, dude. We still don't know who these clowns are. I can appreciate the oppurtunity to get some payback for Flight 103, but we can't go off half-cocked supporting the next goofbal, anti-American, Islamofacist dictatorship of Libya.

    Side note: is it Lib-ya, or Libby-uh?
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I dunno, dude. We still don't know who these clowns are. I can appreciate the oppurtunity to get some payback for Flight 103, but we can't go off half-cocked supporting the next goofbal, anti-American, Islamofacist dictatorship of Libya.

    Side note: is it Lib-ya, or Libby-uh?
    Wow...of all the people on this thread to even pay attention to what I have to say, much less agree...apdst, who woulda thunk it?

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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Obama could eat a hamburger and conservatives would still find a way to convince themselves how its a bad idea, shows lack of leadership, is un-American, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I dunno, dude. We still don't know who these clowns are. I can appreciate the oppurtunity to get some payback for Flight 103, but we can't go off half-cocked supporting the next goofbal, anti-American, Islamofacist dictatorship of Libya.

    Side note: is it Lib-ya, or Libby-uh?
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Obama could take a lesson here.
    I think this is a mistake. If the rebels had actually taken Tripoli, that would be a different story...but with our National Intelligence Director saying that Gaddafi is likely to survive, there seems to be no upside to officially recognizing the rebel government at this point, and plenty of downside.
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    NATO needs to make a fast decision. Does it commit as a unit or does it not? The rebels cannot hold against Khadaffi's airforce and tanks.

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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    surprised to see that you take your guidance in things military from the french

    i can only hope that Obama does not follow your lead
    It is a rather unique thing, isn't it? The French taking the lead in a military matter.

    To expand gas production, marketing and distribution, Libya is looking for foreign partners and investment to increase gas exports, particularly to Europe, mainly Italy and France.
    The opening to private investment has attracted foreign investors like the Corinthia Bab Africa Hotel, built in partnership with the Maltese. European firms, including France’s Club Med, are rumoured to have opened talks with the government for the construction of a few large resort facilities.
    The majority of Libya's exports is sold to European countries like Italy (562,000 bpd in January-October 2005), Germany (285,000 bpd), France (101,000 bpd), Spain and Greece. In addition, Libyan oil exports to the United States averaged 56,000 bpd over the first 10 months of 2005, after resuming in June 2004 for the first time in two decades.
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    NATO needs to make a fast decision. Does it commit as a unit or does it not? The rebels cannot hold against Khadaffi's airforce and tanks.
    I have a feeling that lying behind France's recognition of the rebel state is the desire to begin supplying them with aid, possible weaponry without running into UN repercussions. If that IS the motivation, then I'm not going to criticise them.
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    Re: France formally recognises Libyan rebels' authority

    Sarkozy took the decision unilaterally without informing his newly appointed Foreign Affairs minister, and our European partners. I can't help but think he is pulling the "Dubya-card" ... looking forward to getting involved in a war abroad to improve his personal ratings at home. It strikes me as premature and clumsy, very Sarkozy-esque.

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