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There are 'uber rich' who support both parties.

true but the very wealthiest americans tend to support the dems

Buffett, Gates, Soros, Turner for example

and of course most of the hollywood billionaires are dems as well

why?

because welfare socialism helps the uber rich
 
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which is rather dishonest because that class includes those making over a billion a year which skews that number.
LOL - yes, it's extremely dishonest. (And the part about the rest of us getting $100 is complete nonsense.)

It's also true that if you make more than $1 million dollars, almost $800,000 of that goes to taxes (closer to $900,000 if Catawba had his way).
 
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Originally Posted by donc
. My house was paid for prior to 2003. And those that make above $1 million get the same deductions for mortgages.
Congrads on getting your house paid off, mine got paid off in 2006...... but that has nothing to do with the price of eggs either.

I'm sure there are many people making under $100,000 a year that are very happy to have that deduction. I'm also sure that there were people making a million a year that had their homes paid for as well and never got to use that deduction.

Quite frankly. .. a post like that has no logical sense behind it.
 
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LOL - yes, it's extremely dishonest. (And the part about the rest of us getting $100 is complete nonsense.)

It's also true that if you make more than $1 million dollars, almost $800,000 of that goes to taxes (closer to $900,000 if Catawba had his way).


that makes no sense

try again
 
Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

true but the very wealthiest americans tend to support the dems

Buffett, Gates, Soros, Turner for example

and of course most of the hollywood billionaires are dems as well

why?

because welfare socialism helps the uber rich

You may want to read this Bill Gates' interview to see where he stands on teachers and their unions: Gates and Weingarten: Fixing Our Nation's Schools - Newsweek

He isn't standing with the Dems there, that's for sure.
 
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Congrads on getting your house paid off, mine got paid off in 2006...... but that has nothing to do with the price of eggs either.

I'm sure there are many people making under $100,000 a year that are very happy to have that deduction. I'm also sure that there were people making a million a year that had their homes paid for as well and never got to use that deduction.

Quite frankly. .. a post like that has no logical sense behind it.

That makes two of us.I didn't make the post that you have attributed to me.:2wave:
 
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That makes two of us.I didn't make the post that you have attributed to me.:2wave:

opps sorry .. something is screwing up then because it shows it as your post .. (post #761)
 
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opps sorry .. something is screwing up then because it shows it as your post .. (post #761)

Its voodoo.:mrgreen:
 
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Its voodoo.:mrgreen:

laughing .. who do that voodoo that you do ..
 
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Wal-Mart Warns of Democratic Win - WSJ.com

There are many documentaries, articles and websites that deal with this. That's one of the reasons so many people protested having a Wal-Mart in Chicago.

I've not been able to find a like place, that has better wages and benefits than Wal-Mart. A Union would just be a pain in the ass for them.



Wal-Mart - Sustainability Progress to Date 2007-2008 - Wages and Benefits
In addition to what the market requires, we base wages on experience, skills, problem-solving and job accountability. The average hourly, full-time wage for Associates in our U.S. stores is $10.76.
These wages, while competitive with industry, are in many cases entry level jobs. We realize that many stakeholders expect us to pay more, while others are concerned about our ability to remain competitive in serving our customers. We see ways to address both concerns. An example of this was our recent advocacy for an increase in the federal minimum wage.
Every Associate is eligible to receive performance bonuses based on the performance of their store.

Details of the various benefits include:
Health Benefits: All Associates – whether full-time or part-time – can become eligible for health benefits with Wal-Mart, and all children of Associates become eligible for coverage as soon as their parents do. We offer a wide variety of health plan options to meet their differing needs. Every Associate who works in the continental United States can become eligible for individual health coverage that costs as little as $5 per month in some areas and no more than $8 per month nationwide. Moreover, beginning in January 2008, those who participate in our plans will be able to get more than 2,400 generic prescriptions for $4. Read more about Health Care benefits.
401(k) Plan: Wal-Mart may contribute up to two percent of eligible Associates’ annual wages to a 401 (k) plan, after a 12-month waiting period. Contributions may be made even if Associates choose not to add money of their own.
Profit Sharing Plan: Every eligible Associate who has worked for the company for 12 months may receive a company contribution of up to two percent of their wages to a profit sharing account. Contributions are made even if Associates choose not to add money of their own.
Stock Purchase Plan: We contribute to Associates’ stock purchase by matching 15 cents for every dollar of stock purchased through payroll deductions, up to the first $1,800 in purchases each plan year.
 
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Only in America would anyone be having this absurd discussion. Everyone knows teaching is one of the hardest jobs. All the kids are on Ritalin because they are so spastic. The gutless swine Walker didn't include the police unions, what a hypocrite.

Its obvious Fox News and its imitators, CNN, NewsMAx and talk radio are academic frauds, merely parroting the party line of the ultra rich whom, I doubt, are members of this forum.

What are you fighting for? Against your own standard of living? Against unions? For Hannity to become richer? Who?


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Look at the elites pitting the middle class against one another while they exploit you! Here is a list of Elites funding sites like NewsMax and WorldNetDaily:among other things. http://mediamattersaction.org/transparency/funders/


the uber rich tend to support dems

why? do you know?

Doesn't it bother you that your political beliefs are being crammed down your throat by Elites and Think Tanks who program you with rhetoric?
 
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The left isnt eh?

Careful, this may be a trap. :lol:
 
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Are you trying to tell me that a news media outlet would deny a state representive an interview on air?



Link Already got it documented in post #14 along with a link to Wisconsins statutes. Enjoy.

Are you guys talking about the runaway Dems? They've been on the Ed show just about every night it seems.
 
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Protesters are using more than just rhetoric to go after Scott Walker. M&I Bank was Walker's largest contributor, even surpassing the Koch Brothers in contributions. The Unions, along with their members, have more than one billion dollars on deposit with the bank. Guess what? The Unions, along with their membership, are getting ready to pull it all out, which would bankrupt the bank. Looks like it isn't just Governor Walker who is willing to use a slash and burn strategy. The Unions, and their membership also have other targets which they believe they can put out of business.

War has come to Wisconsin, folks.

And I'm sure that's not the only bank they have money in. What do they do with all that money anyway. :)
 
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Doesn't it bother you that your political beliefs are being crammed down your throat by Elites and Think Tanks who program you with rhetoric?

Anyone got their tinfoil hat? He is spouting the same rhetoric in the China media thread...
 
Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

Its obvious Fox News and its imitators, CNN, NewsMAx and talk radio are academic frauds, merely parroting the party line of the ultra rich whom, I doubt, are members of this forum.

What are you fighting for? Against your own standard of living? Against unions? For Hannity to become richer? Who?


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Look at the elites pitting the middle class against one another while they exploit you! Here is a list of Elites funding sites like NewsMax and WorldNetDaily:among other things. Media Matters Action Network


LOL I didn't see anything wrong with who funds conservatives.
George Soros Funded Media Matters offended because
these guys fund Conservatives?? That's priceless :)
Funders
This section of ConservativeTransparency.org identifies those who are responsible for funding the conservative movement in the United States. Many of the foundations listed below have ties to evangelical causes, the oil industry, and other special interests.
 
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I've not been able to find a like place, that has better wages and benefits than Wal-Mart. A Union would just be a pain in the ass for them.

Wal-Mart - Sustainability Progress to Date 2007-2008 - Wages and Benefits
In addition to what the market requires, we base wages on experience, skills, problem-solving and job accountability. The average hourly, full-time wage for Associates in our U.S. stores is $10.76.
These wages, while competitive with industry, are in many cases entry level jobs. We realize that many stakeholders expect us to pay more, while others are concerned about our ability to remain competitive in serving our customers. We see ways to address both concerns. An example of this was our recent advocacy for an increase in the federal minimum wage.
Every Associate is eligible to receive performance bonuses based on the performance of their store.

Details of the various benefits include:
Health Benefits: All Associates – whether full-time or part-time – can become eligible for health benefits with Wal-Mart, and all children of Associates become eligible for coverage as soon as their parents do. We offer a wide variety of health plan options to meet their differing needs. Every Associate who works in the continental United States can become eligible for individual health coverage that costs as little as $5 per month in some areas and no more than $8 per month nationwide. Moreover, beginning in January 2008, those who participate in our plans will be able to get more than 2,400 generic prescriptions for $4. Read more about Health Care benefits.
401(k) Plan: Wal-Mart may contribute up to two percent of eligible Associates’ annual wages to a 401 (k) plan, after a 12-month waiting period. Contributions may be made even if Associates choose not to add money of their own.
Profit Sharing Plan: Every eligible Associate who has worked for the company for 12 months may receive a company contribution of up to two percent of their wages to a profit sharing account. Contributions are made even if Associates choose not to add money of their own.
Stock Purchase Plan: We contribute to Associates’ stock purchase by matching 15 cents for every dollar of stock purchased through payroll deductions, up to the first $1,800 in purchases each plan year.

And unions are dying to unionize WalMart. Because they are in the business of collecting union dues and driving companies into bankruptcy. So, let's envision a WalMart with a union:

The guy in the automotive department can't help you out in the pet department. Against union rules, don'tcha know. The people selling computers can't set them up because they need a union electician to plug them in. Union rules again. Help out with shopping carts in the parking lot? You must be kidding. Not my job tier. And ya' know that guy that's always hiding in the break room? Well, he's good ta' go -- he's got ten years. Remember when Tom took eight sick days and went to Vegas? Lost his job? The union's attorneys got him his job back with retroactive pay!! Yayyyyy!!!

Ya' know that WalMart that used to supply jobs to our out-of-the-way rural community? They're out of business now. Remember when their prices were just prett damned good? Well, they're worse than "you-name-it" now. I never shop there. [This is Maggie's "quote." No source.]

And if our president hadn't used all of his political capital getting healthcare through, we'd have CardCheck right now. What's CardChecK? Just a reminder:

What are some of the problems with the Employee Free Choice Act / Card Check?
There are many. They range from taking away employees' rights to a private ballot on whether or not to organize to forcing businesses into binding, government-dictated arbitration settlements. To learn more, visit the EFCA information page on the Alliance for Worker Freedom website.
What is "Card Check"? "Card Check" is any process by which an employees' right to a federally supervised private ballot election is taken away. This can occur by union organizers coming to a business and asking workers to sign a card in public, or by having mail-in cards; the union, your co-workers and your employee will still know how you voted.
 
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And unions are dying to unionize WalMart. Because they are in the business of collecting union dues and driving companies into bankruptcy. So, let's envision a WalMart with a union:

Attempting to unionize in retail has always failed, retail is the type of business that has too much turnover to make a union worth it.
 
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And unions are dying to unionize WalMart. Because they are in the business of collecting union dues and driving companies into bankruptcy. So, let's envision a WalMart with a union:

The guy in the automotive department can't help you out in the pet department. Against union rules, don'tcha know. The people selling computers can't set them up because they need a union electician to plug them in. Union rules again. Help out with shopping carts in the parking lot? You must be kidding. Not my job tier. And ya' know that guy that's always hiding in the break room? Well, he's good ta' go -- he's got ten years. Remember when Tom took eight sick days and went to Vegas? Lost his job? The union's attorneys got him his job back with retroactive pay!! Yayyyyy!!!

Ya' know that WalMart that used to supply jobs to our out-of-the-way rural community? They're out of business now. Remember when their prices were just prett damned good? Well, they're worse than "you-name-it" now. I never shop there. [This is Maggie's "quote." No source.]



And if our president hadn't used all of his political capital getting healthcare through, we'd have CardCheck right now. What's CardChecK? Just a reminder:

Just wanted to give you an extra like for that. So true.:lamo
 
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One point is .... they are no longer the Bush tax cuts.... they were extended by a liberal president, past by a liberal house .. and a liberal senate ... . that makes them your tax cuts ... unless you didn't vote for Obama

Glad you feel that way! Then I'm sure you won't mind if the tax cuts for the wealthy have to be taken to the chopping block during our budget cuts. :sun
 
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Congrads on getting your house paid off, mine got paid off in 2006...... but that has nothing to do with the price of eggs either.

I'm sure there are many people making under $100,000 a year that are very happy to have that deduction. I'm also sure that there were people making a million a year that had their homes paid for as well and never got to use that deduction.

Quite frankly. .. a post like that has no logical sense behind it.

Everyone gets that deduction, what is your point?
 
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Glad you feel that way! Then I'm sure you won't mind if the tax cuts for the wealthy have to be taken to the chopping block during our budget cuts. :sun

Since WHEN is a TAX CUT part of a budget? A budget has to do with Expenditures. If you will remember....its only been a few short months ago....the progressives in congress where so busy attempting to figure out a way to keep some tax cuts while levying others....something mundane totally slipped their minds....THE BUDGET that they COULD HAVE signed into law LAST YEAR if they had not been so busy attempting to SCREW those DAMN evil RICH PEOPLE, now they are locked into a battle that should never have taken place with a NEW TEA PARTY congress hell bent on reducing the deficit. Strange the way most PROGRESSIVES have convenient memory losses.
 
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I'm sure you won't mind if the tax cuts for the wealthy have to be taken to the chopping block during our budget cuts. :sun

in what parallel reality do you live?

Obama signs tax deal into law - CNN

they're now the bush/obama/clinton/mcconnell/boehner tax cuts for the rich

ie, if you're not aboard you're a splinter

must be lonely
 
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Since WHEN is a TAX CUT part of a budget? A budget has to do with Expenditures. If you will remember....its only been a few short months ago....the progressives in congress where so busy attempting to figure out a way to keep some tax cuts while levying others....something mundane totally slipped their minds....THE BUDGET that they COULD HAVE signed into law LAST YEAR if they had not been so busy attempting to SCREW those DAMN evil RICH PEOPLE, now they are locked into a battle that should never have taken place with a NEW TEA PARTY congress hell bent on reducing the deficit. Strange the way most PROGRESSIVES have convenient memory losses.

Actually, a budget also includes revenues, and ideally, in a budget, revenues will match expenditures... no wonder why so many are failing at the budgeting processes... there are TWO SIDES to it...
 
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