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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Originally Posted by Catawba
    Getting rid of unions has been the first step in preparation for fascist control in every instance in history that I've read about.
    -chuckles- interesting .... but I could just as easily make this statement about the unions couldn't I

    In short, we support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things. We disdain to conceal their views and aims. We openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at our revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

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    Heck, you probably even agree with this .
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    employers don't have that right? them having that right is what you have been advocating this thread!!! lol glad you have finally came to your senses
    This thread is about unions and their rights plus who is funding those unions. You seem to be misguided as usual all in an effort to claim some sort of victory. Fact unions do tell people how to spend some of their money and that money is union dues which come from the taxpayers in the form of salary, get it yet?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    -chuckles- interesting .... but I could just as easily make this statement about the unions couldn't I

    In short, we support every revolutionary movement against the existing social and political order of things. We disdain to conceal their views and aims. We openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at our revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.

    Workers of the world, unite!


    Heck, you probably even agree with this .
    Ever wonder why there is such passion on the part of some for unions. Some interesting facts on unions

    1,500 of the cost of each car pays for health insurance.
    For each car, more money is spent for health insurance than on steel for its construction.
    Toyota has far lower health care costs in comparison to the UAW. While healthcare costs contributed to a combined loss of $15 billion for the ?Big Three,? Toyota posted a profit of $14 billion.

    United Auto Workers (UAW)

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This thread is about unions and their rights plus who is funding those unions. You seem to be misguided as usual all in an effort to claim some sort of victory. Fact unions do tell people how to spend some of their money and that money is union dues which come from the taxpayers in the form of salary, get it yet?
    do you get it yet? it is none of your business.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    do you get it yet? it is none of your business.
    What makes it the right of union management? The employer has no rights but the union does? That is liberal logic.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So unions have the right but the taxpayer doesn't? We are talking forced unions in Wisconsin as that is what this thread is about.
    When has the taxpayer been asked where they agree or not with collective bargaining by the public unions? Gov. Walker didn't run his campaign on this issue, if he had he might have lost. He won the race by 5% so only 2 1/2 swing could make all the difference in the world. He most likely will face a recall election after January and the polls show a reversal from his victory. He may have won this battle, but he may lose the war. Stay tuned conservative.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    When has the taxpayer been asked where they agree or not with collective bargaining by the public unions? Gov. Walker didn't run his campaign on this issue, if he had he might have lost. He won the race by 5% so only 2 1/2 swing could make all the difference in the world. He most likely will face a recall election after January and the polls show a reversal from his victory. He may have won this battle, but he may lose the war. Stay tuned conservative.
    Will do, let's see if the unions make Wisconsin default and break the state. You will then be so proud.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    do you get it yet? it is none of your business.
    Before I wade in on this with you, seeing I haven't been making any of the arguments, I was to be clear where you are coming from.

    First, seeing that to work in Wisconsin as a teacher, you “must” join the union, so you are for forcing people to be a union worker to work in their chosen profession in Wisconsin?

    Next, do you agree or disagree that your employer should have some say in your wages and benefits ?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Does that hold true of those corporations that the left seems to hate? How about public unions that live off the taxpayer dollars? You don't see a conflict of interest in public unions backing candidates that spend taxpayer dollars freely?
    You don't see a problem with corporations giving money to the Chamber of Commerce, who then turn around and contribute 90% of that money to Republicans? You don't see a problem with corporations contributing unlimited amounts of money to politicians, enabling them to basically buy votes and influence laws? Since you have such a problem with unions contributing to political causes, shouldn't you feel the same way about corporations? Shareholders don't neccesarily have a say in where that money goes.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You don't see a problem with corporations giving money to the Chamber of Commerce, who then turn around and contribute 90% of that money to Republicans? You don't see a problem with corporations contributing unlimited amounts of money to politicians, enabling them to basically buy votes and influence laws? Since you have such a problem with unions contributing to political causes, shouldn't you feel the same way about corporations? Shareholders don't neccesarily have a say in where that money goes.
    Nope, don't care at all as it isn't taxpayer money. Shareholders choose to invest, taxpayers don't

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