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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You just switched arguments, actually topics, completely. Now we're talking about the 'real issue'? Please. (oh and btw, I've said in this thread or another, I can't remember that I think people should have the choice to opt out of being in a union).

    I win.
    The Thread topic is about Wisconsin unions, you win what?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    You don't seem to get it, unions have chosen how Wisconsin workers spend their money, they have no choice but to spend it on union dues if they want the job. Guess that is ok in your book, forced union membership and forced dues. Makes it great for those high priced union management jobs, doesn't it?
    back on topic, who the hell are you to dictate how someone spends their wages?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    just because someone pays his salary doesnt entitle them to tell him what to do with it, how to spend it....
    Yet, unions tell the employees of Wisconsin what to do with some of their money. You don't have a problem with that?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    back on topic, who the hell are you to dictate how someone spends their wages?
    But unions have that right? It is ok for unions to tell people what they have to do with some of their money but not the employer, the taxpayers?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    But unions have that right? It is ok for unions to tell people what they have to do with some of their money but not the employer, the taxpayers?
    the question is who are you to tell someone what to do with their wages...answer it

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Wrong, when you get money for working in the public sector it is money that the taxpayers paid to those employees since the govt. produces nothing of value except a service required by the taxpayers. If there were no taxpayers there would be no public employees but without taxpayers there are private sector businesses. I just don't get how some of you think. Money doesn't grow on trees, private sector money comes from the purchase of goods and services and doesn't cost the taxpayer a dime. You don't want to buy a service your choice, but not so with public employees.
    A waitress produces nothing of value beyond that of a service required by customers. Same goes for a taxi cab. Same also goes for truck drivers. Point being that once that money is in thier pocket it is no longer yours (the taxpayers) and you have no right to dictate anything to them based on the money in thier pocket. Without the public worker there would be no public services that the "taxpayer requires". Believe me, you (the taxpayer) would be sorely screwed if every single public worker stopped working no matter what for 1 week. In fact you would probably be screwed even more than if Nike workers went on strike for a week.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Less than 12% of the work force is union, gee, wonder why? You are an example of the public employees I am talking about. IMO, you have little respect for the people paying your salary.
    Where you do get off having the gall to make a ballsy statement like that? I gave my entire career in service to the taxpayer.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    But unions have that right? It is ok for unions to tell people what they have to do with some of their money but not the employer, the taxpayers?
    NO ONE has the right to tell anyone what to do with thier own wages. Not unions, not employers, not the taxpayers, NO ONE.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    the question is who are you to tell someone what to do with their wages...answer it
    Why don't you ask union leadership. I don't live in Wisconsin and I don't have public unions in my area. I choose where to spend my dollars, unions force workers to pay union dues.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    NO ONE has the right to tell anyone what to do with thier own wages. Not unions, not employers, not the taxpayers, NO ONE.
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