And yes there was a need. Study up on unions and see how they have continueally raised pay grades and demand more and more to the point where buisnesses and manufacturing companies move out of the country because of the demands that Unions make. Granted Unions are only part of the reason. But it is still there. And another view for you to look at. Why would there even be a need to cut pay and union benefits if it wasn't hurting US and State debts? If the US was "capable of meeting the demands"? Oh wait...you'll respond with the canned reply of "because they want to hurt the workers and not big buisnesses". Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Every single big buisness out there needs workers. Without them they cannot exist. Just as the workers cannot work without big buisness. It is a symbiotic relationship.