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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    And your documentation for that is what counselor? Your esteemed opinion?

    common sense seems to be greek to some of you libs

    who is more likely to run up a credit card bill

    a guy who doesn't have to pay the balance or some person who has to work a minimum wage job to do so?



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'll happily give up my $100 so those making over $1 million will again be paying their fair share, $93,000 more on average for those making over $1 mil!
    aint gonna happen

    First Read - Obama signs tax cut bill into law

    sorry

    where ya been

    Its no fantasy.
    oh?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    common sense seems to be greek to some of you libs

    who is more likely to run up a credit card bill

    a guy who doesn't have to pay the balance or some person who has to work a minimum wage job to do so?

    Once again, plenty of BS but shy of any documentation whatsoever.

    "When George W. Bush was sworn into office as president in January 2001, he inherited a record budget surplus. Five weeks later, he addressed a joint session of Congress, urging lawmakers to act swiftly on his signature campaign promise: $1.6 trillion in tax cuts.

    "I hope you'll join me in standing firmly on the side of the people," the president said. "See, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and on their behalf, I'm here asking for a refund."

    Republicans cheered. But Democrats were deeply skeptical of a tax cut based on projections of a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years that, in fact, never came about. At the time, North Dakota's Kent Conrad was the ranking Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee."

    ""The tax cut is simply too big," he said. "No. 2, it is unfair. It goes primarily to the wealthiest among us. Forty percent of the benefit goes to the wealthiest 1 percent in this country."

    And House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri had a dire warning: "This is a mistake that we will pay for for years to come!"

    Nonetheless, Republicans pushed two big tax packages through Congress in 2001 and 2003. The measures cut marginal rates on personal income taxes. They gradually reduced the estate tax so it disappeared altogether this year. In 2003, they slashed taxes on dividends and capital gains. But to comply with budget and procedural rules, Republicans had to let all those cuts expire, most of them after 10 years. And that is why the clock is now ticking down to Dec. 31 — when tax rates will return to pre-tax cut levels unless Congress acts."
    As Clock Ticks, Lawmakers Revisit Bush Tax Cuts : NPR
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Once again, plenty of BS but shy of any documentation whatsoever.

    "When George W. Bush was sworn into office as president in January 2001, he inherited a record budget surplus. Five weeks later, he addressed a joint session of Congress, urging lawmakers to act swiftly on his signature campaign promise: $1.6 trillion in tax cuts.

    "I hope you'll join me in standing firmly on the side of the people," the president said. "See, the growing surplus exists because taxes are too high and government is charging more than it needs. The people of America have been overcharged, and on their behalf, I'm here asking for a refund."

    Republicans cheered. But Democrats were deeply skeptical of a tax cut based on projections of a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years that, in fact, never came about. At the time, North Dakota's Kent Conrad was the ranking Democrat on the Senate Budget Committee."

    ""The tax cut is simply too big," he said. "No. 2, it is unfair. It goes primarily to the wealthiest among us. Forty percent of the benefit goes to the wealthiest 1 percent in this country."

    And House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt of Missouri had a dire warning: "This is a mistake that we will pay for for years to come!"

    Nonetheless, Republicans pushed two big tax packages through Congress in 2001 and 2003. The measures cut marginal rates on personal income taxes. They gradually reduced the estate tax so it disappeared altogether this year. In 2003, they slashed taxes on dividends and capital gains. But to comply with budget and procedural rules, Republicans had to let all those cuts expire, most of them after 10 years. And that is why the clock is now ticking down to Dec. 31 — when tax rates will return to pre-tax cut levels unless Congress acts."
    As Clock Ticks, Lawmakers Revisit Bush Tax Cuts : NPR
    denial and avoidance tends to be all you have

    your claims about 'trickle down' were unsupported



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    lefties constantly whine about the rich not paying enough taxes (ie so the libs can continue to buy the votes of the masses without pissing them off by raising their taxes) yet the problem is that too many people have no incentive to stop runaway government spending



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lefties constantly whine about the rich not paying enough taxes (ie so the libs can continue to buy the votes of the masses without pissing them off by raising their taxes) yet the problem is that too many people have no incentive to stop runaway government spending
    You excrete this crap a couple of times every day the way other people have routine physical functions.

    The result is the same. You badly need to learn a new tune. Do you really think anybody pays any attention to this crap after reading it thousands of times and they know that all you have is your opinion to back it up? You may want to try elevating your game up to the actual level of debate of include some verifiable factual support to buttress the ideological proclamations of your right wing belief system.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    common sense seems to be greek to some of you libs

    who is more likely to run up a credit card bill

    a guy who doesn't have to pay the balance or some person who has to work a minimum wage job to do so?
    You're asked for proof or links and reply with your usual three strings of nothing--meaningless notions, attacks you heard on right-wing radio.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    denial and avoidance tends to be all you have

    your claims about 'trickle down' were unsupported
    Again, totally unable to hold your own in any upstairs discussion. Go back to where insults and one line dismissals make you feel good.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.
    The voters don't need to be told that... they need to believe it

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    In response to TurtleDude - Again, totally unable to hold your own in any upstairs discussion. Go back to where insults and one line dismissals make you feel good.
    Its quite alright, I haven't expected anything of TurtleDude's posts since not long after I arrived here and found that he never backs up any of his claims. It was my mistake for actually responding to one of his posts.
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