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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    the ability of a private group such as a union to overturn representative democracy at will is not a right.
    Unions represent citizens. They are a means for citizens to negotiate so that they aren't taken advantage of. If you have a problem with what you say you do, you should probably contact all of the lobbies in Washington that are the talking heads of the privileged few.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Textbook lefty parrot points, congrats.

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. It's no coincidence that the economy thrived under Clinton and tanked gradually throughout Bush's terms and that rich, greedy types tend to flock to the Republican Party. Democrats are not innocent in pandering to corporate interests, but Republicans have the policies that attract them the most. What does a greedy corporation want more than a party the targets unions - see notorious employer Walmart's contribution to Walker's campaign.
    2. It was unnecessary for the United States to get involved. We went in based on false information, it did nothing to help us, we are not the world's police and we wasted money that we could have used right about now.
    3. When I say capable, I meant with the concessions that unions said they would make. There was no need to take away any aspect of collective bargaining. And as far as that $14 trillion - it's funny how conservatives are so quick to demand middle class workers to sacrifice pay, but they don't even consider the idea that the richest of this country who are still making millions of dollars could pay some extra taxes.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Already did. Just because someone claims something means nothing. Where's the proof?
    in his mind.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No rights have been taken away. People can still bargain for thier wages, pensions etc etc. All they have to do now is speak for themselves. God forbid that people actually stand up for themselves instead of having someone else do it.
    Joining a union is standing up for yourself. It's a way of getting people with a common interest in the same organization so that the process can be more efficient. And their right to collective bargaining for things other than wages was taken away. But I guess it's okay that incompetent government agencies can now force teachers to take on classes with 40 students so that they get exhausted and students don't learn. Everybody wins.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    i'm a public school teacher and there is little doubt that the cta and the nea are all about the profession and not the community, the country or the kids

    wisconsin is just the beginning, as you know

    this movement is sweeping almost all our states

    did you see what the MAYORS in MASSACHUSETTS had to say yesterday---about unions, pensions, health care, collective bargaining

    Mass. mayors, unions debate health care proposals - Health - msnbc.com

    have you heard CUOMO, have you heard MOONBEAM

    the force is irresistable

    what's gonna happen to membership after the governors and mayors are thru SLASHING

    what's gonna happen to union dues

    and those customary contributions to democrat candidates

    obama won the white house in november of 08 and he thought that what americans wanted was for his team to never let the catastrophe go to waste

    the opposition was rewarded in many places on tsunami tuesday, and republicans think THIS is what the voters want

    we'll find out

    but either way the progressive posse is gonna have to fight back from now on, at least for the foreseeable, on a less even playing field than it's accustomed to

    what brought us here, bottom line: FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    stay up

    or we'll getcha on civility too
    I'll bet Obamacare figures into all this somehow too.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. It's no coincidence that the economy thrived under Clinton and tanked gradually throughout Bush's terms and that rich, greedy types tend to flock to the Republican Party. Democrats are not innocent in pandering to corporate interests, but Republicans have the policies that attract them the most. What does a greedy corporation want more than a party the targets unions - see notorious employer Walmart's contribution to Walker's campaign.
    2. It was unnecessary for the United States to get involved. We went in based on false information, it did nothing to help us, we are not the world's police and we wasted money that we could have used right about now.
    3. When I say capable, I meant with the concessions that unions said they would make. There was no need to take away any aspect of collective bargaining. And as far as that $14 trillion - it's funny how conservatives are so quick to demand middle class workers to sacrifice pay, but they don't even consider the idea that the richest of this country who are still making millions of dollars could pay some extra taxes.
    I strongly disagree. The Gramm-Bliley Act, which got rid of the Glass Steagal law, passed during the Great Depression, and removed the safeguards against another Great Depression, and which created the conditions we have now, was signed by Bill Clinton himself.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    please link to either a video or transcript where the Wis GOP leader sdaid on FOX this morning 'It's all about hating Obama'
    I already posted an another thread on that tool confirming what we already knew.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Textbook lefty parrot points, congrats.
    I take that as a compliment. Thank you.

    BTW, the reason they're "parrot points" is because we're consistent in our delivery of the truth as we've experienced it. It's getting exhausting to be honest.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'll bet Obamacare figure into all this somehow too.

    Um, care to show me what Obamacare has to do with this topic? I'll be waiting for your answer. Take all the time you need. In fact, take a thousand years, if you need to. Will a thousand years be enough for you to come up with why Obamacare is related to this issue? It's not? I don't know what to tell you then.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Actually, no.

    You are consistent in your narrative, there is a large difference.

    You ignore historical reality in favor of the Left Wing narrative....

    You parrot what you've been told....

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    I take that as a compliment. Thank you.

    BTW, the reason they're "parrot points" is because we're consistent in our delivery of the truth as we've experienced it. It's getting exhausting to be honest.
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