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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    even with the 91K "break", they still pay more taxes than you will ever dream of. what's your point?
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    So, are you actually trying to parrot the same dollar amount, in the hopes that people will believe that large corporations got $91,000 tax cut? Wait, tax cut, or tax break? There's a difference.
    The point is that since there was no funding source provided for the $91,000 on average in tax breaks we give each year to everyone that makes more than $1 million dollars, it is added to the debt which the middle class and our future offspring than become responsible to pay back

    Care to tell us how much you paid in taxes?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point is that since there was no funding source provided for the $91,000 on average in tax breaks we give each year to everyone that makes more than $1 million dollars, it is added to the debt which the middle class and our future offspring than become responsible to pay back
    you really don't understand how taxes and tax breaks/cuts work, do you?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Here then, let's cut some of your entitlements...it is after all the spending that is breaking us.


    Can you handle a little less welfare?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The point is that since there was no funding source provided for the $91,000 on average in tax breaks we give each year to everyone that makes more than $1 million dollars, it is added to the debt which the middle class and our future offspring than become responsible to pay back



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ok, well obviously that means you don't have the first ****ing clue what trickle down economics is.

    Here goes: I'm in the turcking business. Before Obama cocked things up, I used to pay a man to bust my tires
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    What are you talking about, the recession?


    Now, I do it myself and he doesn't get that money anymore. I used to take my trucks to a mechanic for everything. Now, I do alot of minor stuff myself and the guy I used to use doesn't get that money. He went out of business and had to go get a job with Peterbilt. Get the picture?
    No, not at all. Are you going to explain what trickle down theory is now?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you really don't understand how taxes and tax breaks/cuts work, do you?
    Yes, I do. If you cut revenues from one class and continue the same spending levels, you create debt which all classes must share in. That is one of the reasons our debt is so big and the middle class is failing.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, I do. If you cut revenues from one class and continue the same spending levels, you create debt which all classes must share in. That is one of the reasons our debt is so big and the middle class is failing.
    bolded...there's your problem. stop the handouts
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Here then, let's cut some of your entitlements...it is after all the spending that is breaking us.


    Can you handle a little less welfare?
    The problem is you cut revenues from the top income class while not providing a living wage for the bottom. Of course that is only going to increase the welfare roles. Sure, you can eliminate welfare and have a 50 million people out to cut your throat for a loaf of bread, that makes sense., or you can cut back a little on the tax breaks for the wealthy and help cut back on the National debt so that every one has less debt.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    bolded...there's your problem. stop the handouts
    That isn't going to happen. Even the GOP when they were in charge did not eliminate the social safety nets. Why do you feel the Middle class should continue to subsidize tax breaks for everyone that makes over $1 million dollars.

    How has that helped us since 2003?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The problem is you cut revenues from the top income class while not providing a living wage for the bottom. Of course that is only going to increase the welfare roles. Sure, you can eliminate welfare and have a 50 million people out to cut your throat for a loaf of bread, that makes sense., or you can cut back a little on the tax breaks for the wealthy and help cut back on the National debt so that every one has less debt.
    maybe if they got off their asses and stopped smoking newports and drinking 40s they could get trained/educated a provide a living wage for themself.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That isn't going to happen. Even the GOP when they were in charge did not eliminate the social safety nets. Why do you feel the Middle class should continue to subsidize tax breaks for everyone that makes over $1 million dollars.

    How has that helped us since 2003?
    I don't. I feel the lower class should start shouldering some of the burden instead of sponging off everyone else.
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