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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Akston View Post
    This is great for the state of Wisconsin, I applaud the Senate for a job well done.

    Breaking the law and setting the stage for a massive recall election...??

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Thanks. So basically what they did was take the contentious issue that was keeping the democrats away and seperated it into its own bill. Is there anything saying that they won't attempt to pass the actual bill that the collective bargaining rights was in in the first place? If they attempt to pass it then you have no case. If they don't then you do.

    The collective bargaining rights issues is what started this whole mess to begin with. Since the republicans were able to get it passed there is nothing saying that buisness can not continue now. Unless the Democrats continue to stay away as another form of protest? In which case just who exactly is to blame then? Wouldn't it be better to go back and try and get this bill repealed while passing the other one (the one with the budget)?
    I believe the tactic now is going to be recall, and the GOP just gave one hell of a huge boost to the recall effort against 8 Republicans in that state. There is no doubt either that Walker himself will be recalled next year.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Breaking the law and setting the stage for a massive recall election...??
    What law has been broken?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Sure... that's it... it has nothing at all to do with the public sector union pensions bankrupting the state... It's all about hating Obama.
    Well, that's what the GOP Wis leader said this morning on Fox News.

    And that's what all the ads they've been running have stated...



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold part: In case you hadn't heard the laws that lead to the lending problem began with Clinton, under a democratic controlled Congress.

    As far as the war goes...I'm sure those in Iraq wouldn't consider "unnecessary". IE just depends upon your perspective on whether it was necessary or not.


    As for the US being fully capable of fulfilling the demands of public workers pay....Have you SEEN the national debt lately? $14 trillion dollars in debt. How in the world do you expect the US to pay every single employee without making some cuts? Borrow more? The old saying of "money doesn't grow on tree's" isn't just a meaningless saying you know.
    1. It's no coincidence that the economy thrived under Clinton and tanked gradually throughout Bush's terms and that rich, greedy types tend to flock to the Republican Party. Democrats are not innocent in pandering to corporate interests, but Republicans have the policies that attract them the most. What does a greedy corporation want more than a party the targets unions - see notorious employer Walmart's contribution to Walker's campaign.
    2. It was unnecessary for the United States to get involved. We went in based on false information, it did nothing to help us, we are not the world's police and we wasted money that we could have used right about now.
    3. When I say capable, I meant with the concessions that unions said they would make. There was no need to take away any aspect of collective bargaining. And as far as that $14 trillion - it's funny how conservatives are so quick to demand middle class workers to sacrifice pay, but they don't even consider the idea that the richest of this country who are still making millions of dollars could pay some extra taxes.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What law has been broken?
    Read the OP.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe the tactic now is going to be recall, and the GOP just gave one hell of a huge boost to the recall effort against 8 Republicans in that state. There is no doubt either that Walker himself will be recalled next year.
    We'll see. But could you respond to post #19 for me also?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17
    Sure... that's it... it has nothing at all to do with the public sector union pensions bankrupting the state... It's all about hating Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Well, that's what the GOP Wis leader said this morning on Fox News.

    And that's what all the ads they've been running have stated...


    please link to either a video or transcript where the Wis GOP leader sdaid on FOX this morning 'It's all about hating Obama'

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true. In passing the bill, Republicans stripped out ALL of the economic measures, and the version that went to the floor ONLY dealt with busting the union. NOTHING was passed that dealt with the budget. And therein, we now see the real motivation for this move, which was to repay the funding and favors given by the Koch Brothers to the Wisconsin Republican party. The GOP will soon be dead in that state. They have picked a fight that they are surely going to lose.
    I doubt you have set foot in the state since this has all been going on.

    the GOP will be dead in the state of Wisconsin? put down the crack pipe.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Read the OP.
    Already did. Just because someone claims something means nothing. Where's the proof?
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