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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    Undoubtedly their are some budget problems but to single out one group "especially a group that may not support your politics shows bias. So be fair, lets ask Gov Walker and any governor attacking the teacher's union to tell the insurance companies that they have to take a 10% reduction in premiums.
    Bias is a natural byproduct of the two party system we currently have. Anyone not on your side is being unfair and biased etc. etc. That argument is a nonstarter.

    I don't have a problem with a restructure of insurance companies but that has nothing to do with unions.

    Quote Originally Posted by EarlzP View Post
    When your state is in a financial crisis every thing possible needs to be done to address the problem, this is nothing but smoke and mirrors, the real purpose is to break up a voting block that traditionally supports politicians that vote for laws and bills that favor them. The working middle class is the target
    I concur with your assessment that a key element of this is to weaken the opponents support. Again this is a natural byproduct of the two party system. It seems you are on the opposing side so of course you will view this as problematic. Those on the supporting side see this as good policy. Again the argument is a nonstarter. The unions haven't been interested in the middle class worker for some time. That is why they need to go the way of the dinosaur.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    In other words.....bleed the taxpayers dry, too.
    It amuses me that most of the same people complaining about what teachers are paid, are the same ones that don't mind forking over a $91,000 tax break on average every year to all those that make over $1 million dollars.

    Teacher's educate our children for us for less. What have we gotten for the $91,000 that we taxpayers have given to millionaires each year since 2003?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What have we gotten for the $91,000 that we taxpayers have given to millionaires each year since 2003?
    I get even less from the thousands of dollars I've given to you.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I get even less from the thousands of dollars I've given to you.
    What do you think you give me in terms of thousands of dollars a year?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What do you think you give me in terms of thousands of dollars a year?
    Why, tax breaks of course! I assume you own a home. There's no telling how many thousands of dollars that I and the rest of my taxpayer friends have given you to live there. You never even invited us over for coffee! Sheesh!

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Why, tax breaks of course! I assume you own a home. There's no telling how many thousands of dollars that I and the rest of my taxpayer friends have given you to live there. You never even invited us over for coffee! Sheesh!
    Don't forget the earned income credit.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Why, tax breaks of course! I assume you own a home. There's no telling how many thousands of dollars that I and the rest of my taxpayer friends have given you to live there. You never even invited us over for coffee! Sheesh!
    The 2003 Bush tax cuts are annually $91,000 on average to those making more than $1 million dollars. the tax cut for those making less than $1 million, the average tax cut is $100 annually. My house was paid for prior to 2003. And those that make above $1 million get the same deductions for mortgages.

    So what is your point again?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The 2003 Bush tax cuts are annually $91,000 on average to those making more than $1 million dollars. the tax cut for those making less than $1 million, the average tax cut is $100 annually. My house was paid for prior to 2003. And those that make above $1 million get the same deductions for mortgages.

    So what is your point again?
    what was your tax bill last year?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What do you think you give me in terms of thousands of dollars a year?
    It's their old tired mantra - every Dem/Lib is on handouts - never mind that Libs are now the richest in the country, those poor ole Republican middle-class people, they've been taught that giving to the poor is bad, giving to the rich somehow benefits them more......it'll trickle down someday!



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    It's their old tired mantra - every Dem/Lib is on handouts - never mind that Libs are now the richest in the country, those poor ole Republican middle-class people, they've been taught that giving to the poor is bad, giving to the rich somehow benefits them more......it'll trickle down someday!
    Yes, people evidently have been waiting on that trickle down for 30 years now, and this is as good as its ever gotten:

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