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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    The majority of Americans are against it:

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    The majority of Wisconsinites are against it:

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    Somebody show me some facts that suggest that the majority of Americans and Wisconsinites, in particular, support this bill.
    don't care about biased polls one bit. save 'em for dailykos, or whereever you frequent.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, no wonder the unions are fighting so hard and spending so much money on this issue, they know the outcome.
    This has more to do with the parasitic relationship with the Democratic WI base than is being led on. Walkers success and win on this issue has put the unions on their heels and he played the fiddle just right. He offered a compromise in the 11th hour, the fleebaggers scoffed and Walker split it out and got the job done. The timing was just right and he out played them at their own game. Kudo's to a very well done political victory.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Exactly, no wonder the unions are fighting so hard and spending so much money on this issue, they know the outcome.
    Which is why WI voters know it was never about the budget. Republicans once again overplayed their hand. Your Repub Senate Majority Leader came out and admitted the other day on Faux Ooze that their gaol is to weaken Democratic support. He ****ing admitted it on national tv. If anybody in WI had any doubts, Fitzgerald's comments confirmed the obvious. It was never about the budget.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Since when does one need to belong to a union in order to support collective bargaining. Read a poll. There are quite a few of them on this subject, conducted on residents of your own state. All of the polls show a clear majority of WI citizens support the unions. The numbers aren't even close. That is a fact. You can say this or that, but you can't change that fact.
    Read the bill, it doesn't remove salary from the collective bargaining rights which still is more than Federal Employee Unions have. All the polls? Depends on how the question is asked but you want so badly to believe what some tell you that you continue to buy the rhetoric. Fiscal responsibility doesn't seem to be an issue with either unions or liberals. You are sorely going to be disappointed.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Which is why WI voters know it was never about the budget. Republicans once again overplayed their hand. Your Repub Senate Majority Leader came out and admitted the other day on Faux Ooze that their gaol is to weaken Democratic support. He ****ing admitted it on national tv. If anybody in WI had any doubts, Fitzgerald's comments confirmed the obvious. It was never about the budget.
    We shall see, right? you are going to be disappointed in the outcome. What will your next move be?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    don't care about biased polls one bit. save 'em for dailykos, or whereever you frequent.
    1. Gallup is one of the most respected polling organizations; respected by people of all political ideologies.

    2. Greenberg Quinlan Rosner is a Democratic polling organization, so you can claim bias if you want, but it is also one of the most respected polling organization.s

    You and others keep making the claim that Americans and Wisconsinites are in support of Walker. The only way to make or challenge this claim is with polls -they're is no other measure of approval.

    I have polls that support my claim. Where are yours?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    don't care about biased polls one bit. save 'em for dailykos, or whereever you frequent.
    I didn't realize that the Wisconsin Public Research Institute is a biased organization. I guess any poll that shows support for unions (which is every poll) is biased to you? Hell, even Rasmussen shows support for unions. But you want to ignore those results, right? Typical con.

    Another Poll Brings Bad News for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker - Robert Schlesinger (usnews.com)

    The Wisconsin Public Research Institute released a poll over the weekend which showed that 51 percent of Wisconsites somewhat or strongly oppose Walker’s plan to roll back collective bargaining rights and cut public workers’ compensation. More striking is the intensity of the opposition Walker and his plan inspire.

    It’s not just that 51 percent oppose the plan, but 42 percent oppose it strongly (9 percent somewhat oppose). And asked if they strongly or somewhat approve or disapprove of Walker’s job performance as governor a remarkable 45 percent strongly disapprove, with another 8 percent somewhat disapproving. His strong approval was 29 percent and his somewhat approve figure is 14 percent.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. Gallup is one of the most respected polling organizations; respected by people of all political ideologies.

    2. Greenberg Quinlan Rosner is a Democratic polling organization, so you can claim bias if you want, but it is also one of the most respected polling organization.s

    You and others keep making the claim that Americans and Wisconsinites are in support of Walker. The only way to make or challenge this claim is with polls -they're is no other measure of approval.

    I have polls that support my claim. Where are yours?
    The only polls that matter are the ones on election day. Rasmussen has a poll that doesn't support your claims as do others.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    We shall see, right? you are going to be disappointed in the outcome. What will your next move be?
    I suspect, fetally weeping and pooping pampers. Just a guess, but my middle name is Criswell.

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