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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I am really surprised by this, actually. It's almost unbelievable. I think that Republicans probably dotted their i's and crossed their t's on this....so it'll probably stand. Now we wait to see if unions can convince enough average Wisconsinites to recall some of the Republicans.....and if the Republicans recall less Dems...and roll back the legislation. Personally, I don't think that's going to be particularly easy. Democracy in action, I guess.

    As for the tactic, I say, Good for them. Governor Walker, you rock.
    As usual, this will all depend on which judge the Democrats shop for.

    However, as was said, as soon as ONE Democrat Senator steps into Wisconsin, he should be arrested and immediately brought to the state capital where legislation pending his august presence has been held in abeyance. It can then be passed, and the issue of what appears to be a perfectly legal non-budgetary bill becomes moot, as it's terms will have been included in the bill the Senator's presence finally allowed passage of.

    The problem with the Democrats' game of hookey has always been that they can't stay away for their full term. They're looking more ridiculous every single day.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    Attorney Robert Dreps, an expert on the state open meetings law, said he did not believe the conference committee could meet with such short notice.

    State law generally requires a 24-hour notice for public meetings, but can be called with just two hours notice when more notice is impossible or impractical, said Dreps, who has represented the Journal Sentinel in the past.

    “I can’t imagine how they can meet that standard,” he said.

    GOP rams anti-union bill through Wis. Senate - Politics - More politics - msnbc.com

    There were something like ten thousand members of the public in the capitol when the meeting was held, right?

    Mayor Snorkum would say that the open doors intent of the law was satisfied.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Can you name one Clinton Policy that was responsible for the Economic boom of the 90's?.
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    Hillarycare.

    Hillarycare persuaded to voters to replace Democrats with Republicans, and thus the Democrats lost control of the House.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    As usual, this will all depend on which judge the Democrats shop for.
    true.

    The problem with the Democrats' game of hookey has always been that they can't stay away for their full term. They're looking more ridiculous every single day.
    one of them applied for an absentee ballot, sent to her address in illinois.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    one of them applied for an absentee ballot, sent to her address in illinois.
    Wait...am I missing something here? Last I knew a state representitive had to live inside the state that they ran in? Is that law not around in Wisconsin?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wait...am I missing something here? Last I knew a state representitive had to live inside the state that they ran in? Is that law not around in Wisconsin?
    they do have to maintain their permanent residence there. however, whether or not they have to actually physically "be" there is more dependent upon local law. for example, several state representatives (and i think even a couple of national ones) have taken leaves of absence to go serve overseas with their Reserve or Guard Units.


    but in this case i think it was more of a political stunt. the election is a couple of months away; she was signaling her willingness to stay out of the state "as long as it takes" etc.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If they wanted media attention all they had to do was call the media. I'm sure that each one of em has the media's number on a speed dial.
    That isn't how it works. A state Congressman does not get national attention by calling up Rachel Maddow and saying, "Look at me!"

    As it was they refused a quorum call, which is against the law, and those politicians fled the state. I don't know how you were raised but my folks taught me that fleeing from your responsibilities is the cowards way out.
    Really? What law did they break? Could post the specific one?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That isn't how it works. A state Congressman does not get national attention by calling up Rachel Maddow and saying, "Look at me!"
    Are you trying to tell me that a news media outlet would deny a state representive an interview on air?

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    Really? What law did they break? Could post the specific one?
    Link Already got it documented in post #14 along with a link to Wisconsins statutes. Enjoy.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Snorkum View Post
    There were something like ten thousand members of the public in the capitol when the meeting was held, right?

    Mayor Snorkum would say that the open doors intent of the law was satisfied.
    Prior to taking the vote, the republicans asked for 3 opinions from non-partisans, including the guy who sets the rules for the senate. So, i'm pretty certain that you are correct.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    I read the entire thread. Tax cuts are an expense in that, if we want a balanced budget, we need to cut spending by the corresponding decrease in revenue - that's it.

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