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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah right, it those rich teachers, firefighters and cops that are bringing the country down, its not the millionaires, who since 2003 have been getting more in annual tax breaks ($91,000 on average) than a teacher makes in a year, but sure, for sure go after the teachers and give up and see how much better your life gets.
    How many teachers do you know that went into the business NOT knowing how much the pay was? You seem to know what everyone else needs for a salary. Where did you get your expertise?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah right, it those rich teachers, firefighters and cops that are bringing the country down, its not the millionaires, who since 2003 have been getting more in annual tax breaks ($91,000 on average) than a teacher makes in a year, but sure, for sure go after the teachers and give up and see how much better your life gets.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    I really don't think that liberals have any concept of personal income as apparently they believe it all belongs to the govt. thus allowing people to keep more of what they earn is a govt. expense.
    They hate anyone that isn't on the government dole.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel Hutz View Post
    I've specifically heard Walker say that with this bill, no one will be forced to pay dues which will save them 500-1,000 dollars each year. They can also choose to change heath care insurance and not be forced on the expensive one chosen by the Union.


    I have heard the Wisconsin Republicans and others use this as a way of defending the measures that they are taking. But if the union members lose salary or other benefits greater than this $500-$1000, how does this benefit the union members?
    they're not losing anything that the unions hadn't already agreed to cut - namely that they pay a pitifully small percentage towards their pension and healthcare.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah right, it those rich teachers, firefighters and cops that are bringing the country down, its not the millionaires, who since 2003 have been getting more in annual tax breaks ($91,000 on average) than a teacher makes in a year, but sure, for sure go after the teachers and give up and see how much better your life gets.
    i don't know about bringing the country down (i would suspect that there the culprit is generally our spending and specifically our debt).

    but what's undoubtably bringing local and state governments down is indeed overgenerous union contracts negotiated in Times Of Endless Plenty That Everyone Assumed Would Magically Never End.


    except now they have ended, and while everyone else is taking pay cuts and benefit cuts and furloughs.... public sector unions apparently think that their gold-plated deals are sacrosant.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    they're not losing anything that the unions hadn't already agreed to cut - namely that they pay a pitifully small percentage towards their pension and healthcare.
    Absolutely! And now that Collective Barganing is off the table we will see if all that talk of unions already agreeing to the financial aspects were genuine or just a slimy tactic.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights without Dems



    I don't know if they're cowards, they just risked a massive recall to carry out the agenda of a few billionaire GOP supporters...

    I'd say they're just dumb cheeseheads.
    Ok, so how about giving some substance....like how exactly was this legal?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I really don't think that liberals have any concept of personal income as apparently they believe it all belongs to the govt. thus allowing people to keep more of what they earn is a govt. expense.
    You have got to be kidding me.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    You have got to be kidding me.
    Have you paid any attention to Catawba's posts along with others here regarding tax cuts being an expense and having to be paid for? Maybe I should have said some liberals or even many liberals vs. the blanket statement of liberals.

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