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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true. In passing the bill, Republicans stripped out ALL of the economic measures, and the version that went to the floor ONLY dealt with busting the union. NOTHING was passed that dealt with the budget. And therein, we now see the real motivation for this move, which was to repay the funding and favors given by the Koch Brothers to the Wisconsin Republican party. The GOP will soon be dead in that state. They have picked a fight that they are surely going to lose.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You seem all giddy too.
    He's the "real" conservative 'round here, pardner.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This has nothing to do with Wisconsin. It's all about 2012 and Obama.
    Sure... that's it... it has nothing at all to do with the public sector union pensions bankrupting the state... It's all about hating Obama.




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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true. In passing the bill, Republicans stripped out ALL of the economic measures, and the version that went to the floor ONLY dealt with busting the union. NOTHING was passed that dealt with the budget. And therein, we now see the real motivation for this move, which was to repay the funding and favors given by the Koch Brothers to the Wisconsin Republican party. The GOP will soon be dead in that state. They have picked a fight that they are surely going to lose.
    Proof? I didn't see anything that said that in the article in the OP....
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Gein View Post
    He's the "real" conservative 'round here, pardner.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    i'm a public school teacher and there is little doubt that the cta and the nea are all about the profession and not the community, the country or the kids

    wisconsin is just the beginning, as you know

    this movement is sweeping almost all our states

    did you see what the MAYORS in MASSACHUSETTS had to say yesterday---about unions, pensions, health care, collective bargaining

    Mass. mayors, unions debate health care proposals - Health - msnbc.com

    have you heard CUOMO, have you heard MOONBEAM

    the force is irresistable

    what's gonna happen to membership after the governors and mayors are thru SLASHING

    what's gonna happen to union dues

    and those customary contributions to democrat candidates

    obama won the white house in november of 08 and he thought that what americans wanted was for his team to never let the catastrophe go to waste

    the opposition was rewarded in many places on tsunami tuesday, and republicans think THIS is what the voters want

    we'll find out

    but either way the progressive posse is gonna have to fight back from now on, at least for the foreseeable, on a less even playing field than it's accustomed to

    what brought us here, bottom line: FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    stay up

    or we'll getcha on civility too
    Last edited by The Prof; 03-09-11 at 09:39 PM.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    This has nothing to do with Wisconsin. It's all about 2012 and Obama.
    That, my friend, is delusional baloney.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Since there was no quorum, it will not stand up in court. The Wisconsin State Supreme Court will overturn this in short order.
    No, it actually will not. You only need a Quorum for budgetary measures, as this was not a "budgetary measure" you are wrong.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Sadly you don't understand the economic damage the Public Sector Unions have done to the state, and why this measure is being used to curtail such largess in the future. They aren't doing it for today, they are doing it to save the state tomorrow.
    Where is Taft Hartley when it's really needed.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The police and fire departments do not make up all of Walkers voters and generally republicans are anti-union while democrats are pro-union.

    How so? [overreaching]

    Unless it is stated in the constitution then you can not call something a right. you and I have the right to keep and bear arms without the government infringing on that right because it says so in the 2nd amendment. Where does it say that you have the right to join a union (or some cases forced to join a union if you want a certain job,which is the opposite of something being a right)?
    1. The police and firefighters made up some of the GOP's constituents and I imagine they were not the only ones upset about this. People who join unions because they want the rights and protection won't support someone who is clearly going after them next.

    2. Overreaching is pissing off your constituents and much of the country. The GOP is usually much better about being sneaky with their anti-working class policies and fashioning themselves as champions of all Americans. They're getting sloppy.

    3. People call rights whatever they want to call them. We could add a right to the constitution if we felt like it- see the Civil Rights and Women's rights movements. The point is, whatever people 'perceive' as rights, they'll fight for them and get angry when someone takes them away esp. when there is a history based on fighting for them.

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