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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Catawba, get over it, elections have consequences and your side lost. Wisconsin has rescinded some collective bargaining rights but not those regarding salary.

    It doesn't look like its over to me ~

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
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    You must have missed the entirety of the text you just responded to, which explained EXACTLY how the teachers' unions benefit.
    I see that you moved the goal posts from teachers to teacher's union.



    Right. There's no need to look at the actual data, because it's clear to you. You know it in your heart. An excellent debate tactic. Carry on sir.
    You provide a right wing oped and expect serous consideration? Get real!
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    After Adrian Fenty lost his mayoral reelection bid here in the District, and Michelle Rhee was ousted as chancellor of the DC schools, I was worried that education reform would grind to a halt nationwide. I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Governor Walker's success, and I hope it's replicated in other states.

    Today, Cory Booker, the mayor of Newark, fired a shot across the bow of teacher tenure. Perhaps reforming tenure can be the next target of the reformists, after the unions are curtailed.
    Teacher tenure is poisonous: Cory Booker, mayor of Newark, says it's time to put performance first
    There are many articles that argue the opposite.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Smaller class size means hiring more teachers, which means more teachers paying union dues.
    Increased instruction time means higher compensation, which gives the union more leverage to increase union dues.
    Greater class sizes mean more work for the teachers who already have their hands full. It also decreases the amount of special help that can be given to students. Also, many teachers have to use out of pocket money for equipment. It seems to me you don't care much about the students; you care about the union.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It doesn't look like its over to me ~

    Right, how many people in Wisconsin? How many showed up to protest? You obviously are easily swayed by a picture while ignoring the bigger picture. We all know you are pro public union, get over it, you lost.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Right, how many people in Wisconsin? How many showed up to protest? You obviously are easily swayed by a picture while ignoring the bigger picture. We all know you are pro public union, get over it, you lost.
    So the day may never come again when those rights can be restored...

    NEVER!

    EVER! AGAIN!

    No change in governance can ever change this! It's permanent?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Right, how many people in Wisconsin? How many showed up to protest? You obviously are easily swayed by a picture while ignoring the bigger picture. We all know you are pro public union, get over it, you lost.
    Americans do not give in so easily to fascism as you may think. I would not count us out just yet.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    So the day may never come again when those rights can be restored...

    NEVER!

    EVER! AGAIN!

    No change in governance can ever change this! It's permanent?
    All depends on the results, if the Wisconsin budget gap is closed, the state becomes more business friendly thus creating more jobs then it will never come back and rightly so. There is no place for collective bargaining for public unions just like with the Federal public employees.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Americans do not give in so easily to fascism as you may think. I would not count us out just yet.
    you clearly don't understand the term

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you clearly don't understand the term
    Getting rid of unions has been the first step in preparation for fascist control in every instance in history that I've read about.
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