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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    The working class is not the enemy.

    The Elites and the government, working in collusion, to deregulate big business, in fact, torpedoed our economy.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How does smaller class size and increased instruction time line their pockets?
    Smaller class size means hiring more teachers, which means more teachers paying union dues.
    Increased instruction time means higher compensation, which gives the union more leverage to increase union dues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    Imagine a right wing blogger having that opinion.
    It's not an opinion, he backs it up with statistics which he clearly includes in the post. You don't have to take his word for it, you can look them up yourself on the NAEP website. It's all publicly available.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    article competitions are petty and they don't solve budget problems.
    debate with uninformed doctrinaires (ie, forums members) is not only petty, it's a waste of time

    facts (ie, links) trump personalities and their puny perspectives

    FT.com / US / Economy & Fed - US public pensions face $2,500bn shortfall

    deal with it, or not

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Just heard an interview with WI house republican leader Fitzgerald on a local WI station and he said they came to this course of action because all of the republicans (even those that didn't originally want to take this action) in the senate had come to the realization that the democrats had no intention in making any concessions and coming back. They believed that the democrats were just stalling to allow as many union contracts to be renewed as possible and wait for recalls to be completed.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    that s the scapegoating GOP for ya!

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Smaller class size means hiring more teachers, which means more teachers paying union dues.
    Increased instruction time means higher compensation, which gives the union more leverage to increase union dues.
    So neither line teacher's pockets as you claim.

    It's not an opinion, he backs it up with statistics which he clearly includes in the post. You don't have to take his word for it, you can do the calculations yourself.
    There is no need, I am married to a former teacher in a non-union state that ranks 44th in the nation and it is clear that education suffers here for lack of adequate funding for education.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So neither line teacher's pockets as you claim.



    There is no need, I am married to a former teacher in a non-union state that ranks 44th in the nation and it is clear that education suffers here for lack of adequate funding for education.


    You get what you pay for!
    Catawba, get over it, elections have consequences and your side lost. Wisconsin has rescinded some collective bargaining rights but not those regarding salary.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So neither line teacher's pockets as you claim.
    ...

    ...

    You must have missed the entirety of the text you just responded to, which explained EXACTLY how the teachers' unions benefit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba
    There is no need, I am married to a former teacher in a non-union state that ranks 44th in the nation and it is clear that education suffers here for lack of adequate funding for education.
    Right. There's no need to look at the actual data, because it's clear to you. You know it in your heart. An excellent debate tactic. Carry on sir.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    After Adrian Fenty lost his mayoral reelection bid here in the District, and Michelle Rhee was ousted as chancellor of the DC schools, I was worried that education reform would grind to a halt nationwide. I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Governor Walker's success, and I hope it's replicated in other states.

    Today, Cory Booker, the mayor of Newark, fired a shot across the bow of teacher tenure. Perhaps reforming tenure can be the next target of the reformists, after the unions are curtailed.
    Teacher tenure is poisonous: Cory Booker, mayor of Newark, says it's time to put performance first
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Typical. The poll's results are not to your liking, so you dismiss them. Walker and a few Republican state Repubs won't be feeling the same as you when they get recalled.
    of course I dismiss them. a candidate was just elected by the people that chose to go vote, not byh the people that chose to pick up a phone to listen to biased questions.

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