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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A conservative poll, really?
    Conservative in your mind. The most accurate polling organization in the minds of nonpartisans.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Please post a current poll that shows the public wants the health care bill repealed.
    54% in favor of repeal - March 7th . . . This one seems to be the most current. Gallup's most recent is from January...and it also has more people favoring repeal than keeping it.

    As the topic has been less of a focus the number has been dropping, but my comment still applies to October through December of last year when it was at its peak. I saw many of the left leaning people in this thread posting then, I don't remember then proclaiming then that we must follow what the polls say.

    Its one thing ot suggest that the public doesn't want him doing this. If you don't argue that "polls can be skewed" when a poll you dislike is put forward, then you could definitely make that claim. However, to suggest he should not be doing this based almost singularly because the "people" IE the polls are against it is a rather single minded view, and one that is strangely seemingly only used when people have polls in their favor.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A conservative poll, really?
    Rasmussen is a conservative poll? Typical dodge from you

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Really ??

    OMG. They got donations from their constituents. I'm shocked.

    Obviously, unions and public employees would contribute to politicians who support them. Like I said, the Democrats left to defend their constituents...just like the Republicans pushed their bill in order to defend their constituents - one of the major ones is Walmart who is known for intimidating its workers to not join/organize unions and paying them crappy wages.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You must be joking. It's not a subversion of the democratic process. When you feel that your voters are under attack, you stand up for them. The Democrats left to stall the vote in order to protect their constituents' interests - this is why we vote for who we vote for. They left in hopes of stalling the process, finding laws that prevented Walker's actions and perhaps reaching negotiations that kept collective bargaining in tact. These types of actions are an expression of democratic ideals - voting is NOT the only way.
    So If Rand Paul uses his rightful power in the senate to completely shut down the goverment by filibustering a debt ceiling increase, that is fair game?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    I also changed my lean.

    the difference is I didn't feel complelled to make a vanity post about it.
    As did I. Some people crave attention. He happens to be one of them.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    OMG. They got donations from their constituents. I'm shocked.

    Obviously, unions and public employees would contribute to politicians who support them. Like I said, the Democrats left to defend their constituents...just like the Republicans pushed their bill in order to defend their constituents - one of the major ones is Walmart who is known for intimidating its workers to not join/organize unions and paying them crappy wages.
    You don't see a conflict of interest there? Apparently you don't know where the money comes to pay those public employees?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    So If Rand Paul uses his rightful power in the senate to completely shut down the goverment by filibustering a debt ceiling increase, that is fair game?
    The ability to filibuster was put there for good reason. Both sides, if they're doing their job, work to protect the interests of their constituents. Walker and the Republicans are doing exactly what they ought to do to serve their voters and the Democrats are doing what they ought to do serve their voters. It would have been irresponsible to sit with their hands folded and watch in approval by inaction as Walker passed the bill. They left to strategize. It didn't work. Next.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    OMG. They got donations from their constituents. I'm shocked.

    Obviously, unions and public employees would contribute to politicians who support them. Like I said, the Democrats left to defend their constituents...just like the Republicans pushed their bill in order to defend their constituents - one of the major ones is Walmart who is known for intimidating its workers to not join/organize unions and paying them crappy wages.
    Really? Did Wal-Mart contribute 20% to each of the Republicans campaigns ??

    Wal-Mart contributed 0.16% of Walker's total campaign contributions.

    Koch Industriest contributed 0.47% to Walker.

    Maybe if they had contributed 1/2 of one %, they might get a little influence like the Unions do over Dems.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't see a conflict of interest there? Apparently you don't know where the money comes to pay those public employees?
    I'm really over the whole condescending question thing. You can no longer claim that ignorance is responsible for my point of view. It's funny how difficult it is for you to grasp that people can have two different ideas on the same reality.

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