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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Cut taxes on those that pay the most to promote economic growth and put a leash on the public sector unions to keep the budget in line.
    The problem with this notion is that cutting taxes in no way has been shown to lead to job growth. It is factually incorrect. Other factors play a far more important role in job creation than taxes.

    Furthermore, this goes beyond putting a leash on the public sector unions. It completely eradicates them. They serve virtually no purpose now.

    Here's a hint buddy, doing nothing would have dropped the state into an economic black hole. It wasn't class warfare, it was the first steps in fixing the mess of previous administrations.
    You may have had an argument but the Democrats not agreed to the financial concessions. This quite transparantly had nothing to do with the current financial situation in Wisconsin.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In English please.
    I think he was saying go ahead and strike. Kind of a "make my day" thing.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The problem with this notion is that cutting taxes in no way has been shown to lead to job growth. It is factually incorrect. Other factors play a far more important role in job creation than taxes.
    It's not factually incorrect, it just doesn't jive with your world view.


    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Furthermore, this goes beyond putting a leash on the public sector unions. It completely eradicates them. They serve virtually no purpose now.
    I'm failing to see where the problem lies then.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You may have had an argument but the Democrats not agreed to the financial concessions. This quite transparantly had nothing to do with the current financial situation in Wisconsin.
    If you are talking about this years budget, you have a partial point, if you're talking 10 years down the road, you lose.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think he was saying go ahead and strike. Kind of a "make my day" thing.
    moreevau 'plase shootyorurself in the favaece publicly' thing'.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    moreevau 'plase shootyorurself in the favaece publicly' thing'.
    are you drunk or having a stroke...you're making me nervous.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    They had to do this much like the Dems had to force the healthcare bill through. People will see it to be a good thing in due time.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's not factually incorrect, it just doesn't jive with your world view.
    No. I can actually look at the statistics and see that taxes do not play a significant role in job creation. It's an observable fact that ideologically driven individuals like yourself choose to ignore because it does not jive with your worldview.

    I'm failing to see where the problem lies then.
    I don't have a position on labor unions. However, I do disagree strongly with Walker gaining the power to disolve local governments and install people he appoints in their position. Why should a governor get to decide who is the mayor of my town? That is intolerable.

    If you are talking about this years budget, you have a partial point, if you're talking 10 years down the road, you lose.
    If you are talking long term, it could go either way. If Walker fails to bring in new jobs, then all he has done is completely gut a major section of the state's middle class, which in part means that the state's financial future looks very abysmal. Given that the only evidence you or he has presented that this will lead to job creation is lower taxes, and given that it is factually incorrect that lower taxes have a significant impact on job creation, I would say he may have just screwed Wisconsin royally.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I don't have a position on labor unions. However, I do disagree strongly with Walker gaining the power to disolve local governments and install people he appoints in their position. Why should a governor get to decide who is the mayor of my town? That is intolerable.
    May we have a link to this outlandish assertion? [/QUOTE]

    As to this statement:

    All he has done is completely gut a major section of the state's middle class....
    Even if your hyperbole were correct, and he did gut somebodies (which he didn't), public sector unions represent little more than 6% of the population....teacher unions represent much less than this. I'm assuming that Wisconsin holds true to the entire U.S....and that might well be wrong. The percentage is probably much less. Hardly a major section.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    are you drunk or having a stroke...you're making me nervous.
    Did anyone notice if he was ok one minute and screwed up the next? Seems like he was.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Did anyone notice if he was ok one minute and screwed up the next? Seems like he was.
    he's fine, he's just drunk, with good reason. everybody should lay off.

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