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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    lol...do you know how foolish you sound? again, speaking of things of which you have no knowledge, no background, and obviously no clue about.
    Right, another one line non responsse to the advice given. To try and fail is better than to never try at all. Good luck to you as you are going to need it.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Right, another one line non responsse to the advice given. To try and fail is better than to never try at all. Good luck to you as you are going to need it.
    dude, keep your advice, i don't need it, i'm doing just dandy.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    dude, keep your advice, i don't need it, i'm doing just dandy.
    No problem, hope I am around when you finallly realize how foolish you have been.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    No problem, hope I am around when you finallly realize how foolish you have been.
    making a good wage, have decent benefits, having a voice at my place of employment...yep, if that is foolish, i'm ok with that. wow, you demonizing someone making a decent living....amazing.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    making a good wage, have decent benefits, having a voice at my place of employment...yep, if that is foolish, i'm ok with that. wow, you demonizing someone making a decent living....amazing.
    Your decent living today could be gone tomorrow but that is ok with you since you live for today and ignore tomorrow. One of these days you are going to wake up and realize those unions that you idolize have done absolutely nothing for you other than keep you down for their own personal gain. As stated, good luck, you are going to need it.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Your decent living today could be gone tomorrow but that is ok with you since you live for today and ignore tomorrow. One of these days you are going to wake up and realize those unions that you idolize have done absolutely nothing for you other than keep you down for their own personal gain. As stated, good luck, you are going to need it.
    again, speaking of things you have no clue about, no knowledge, no idea...you do know how foolish you sound, right?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, speaking of things you have no clue about, no knowledge, no idea...you do know how foolish you sound, right?
    There are a lot of kids just like you, know it all who ignore sound advice only to wake up years later asking what happened and why didn't I listen? They woke up with age and realized that they didn't know it all and those giving the advice should have been heeded. To each their own, good luck. I tried. I have seen unions destroy people and there is a reason union participation has been dropping over the years. For that reason union leadership is fighting extra hard to get their relevance back, a battle they are losing as the results trump their rhetoric. Results matter and when Scott Walker generates the results you are going to see the rest of the union house of cards fall.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your decent living today could be gone tomorrow but that is ok with you since you live for today and ignore tomorrow. One of these days you are going to wake up and realize those unions that you idolize have done absolutely nothing for you other than keep you down for their own personal gain. As stated, good luck, you are going to need it.
    Everybody's decent living could be gone tomorrow. Yours. Mine. Ours.

    To say that unions have done nothing for their members other than keep them down is ridiculous. Maybe thirty years ago that was true. And I'm not even sure about then. Today? Nosomuch. Union shops pay very well; workers have a voice; they are rewarded probably beyond what they would be rewarded without their union. You have obviously never worked in a factory, Conservative, or you wouldn't think the way you do about unions.

    While I agree with you that unions don't usually let the cream rise to the top and that exceptional workers will be sometimes held back by their union membership, the good far outweighs the bad.

    If management negotiates in good faith (they don't always) -- if unions negotiates in good faith (they don't always) -- it's a win-win all 'round.

    Private sector unions are a good thing. There are abuses everywhere. Unions get greedy. Workers get greedy. Management caves so the CEO can cash in on his stock options w/o a strike in the wind. But, in the end, the good outweighs the bad, in my opinion.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    There are a lot of kids just like you, know it all who ignore sound advice only to wake up years later asking what happened and why didn't I listen? They woke up with age and realized that they didn't know it all and those giving the advice should have been heeded. To each their own, good luck. I tried. I have seen unions destroy people and there is a reason union participation has been dropping over the years. For that reason union leadership is fighting extra hard to get their relevance back, a battle they are losing as the results trump their rhetoric. Results matter and when Scott Walker generates the results you are going to see the rest of the union house of cards fall.
    When Walker gets recalled, other elected officials will take notice & act accordingly, which means save their own skins.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by The Preacher View Post
    When Walker gets recalled, other elected officials will take notice & act accordingly, which means save their own skins.
    I actually think the lesson has been learned on both sides regardless of what happens. Unions and management have probably (one would hope) learned that everybody's gotta' give somethin'.
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