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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    true, but it is NOT more than the rest of the owrld combined... so Cat was either ignorant of the facts, or lied.
    Catawba makes up so many different things it is hard to tell whether it is ignorance or a lie.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    exactly. it's one of the many examples of how Unions bend the coercive power of the state to their advantage. but that wasn't the question. If a workplace can make union membership a condition of employment, why - rightfully - can't it make lack of union membership a condition of employment? what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander?
    because doing so violates the rights of the workers, is a violation of federal law.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Open Secrets' breakdown of SEIU expenditures for 2008:

    Total Receipts $31,219,502
    Total Spent (view expenditures) $47,404,886
    Begin Cash on Hand $18,191,098
    End Cash on Hand $2,005,715
    Debts $109,523
    Independent Expenditures $36,098,456
    Date of last report December 31, 2008
    Contributions to federal candidates (list recipients) (94% to Democrats, 6% to Republicans) $2,285,850
    Contributions from individual donors of $200 or more ( list donors) $22,972




    now, this is only counting direct contributions to candidates (5 and 10,000 increments), not all the advertising etc; are you going to tell me that contributions of under $200 came to $2,262,000?
    what exactly is this post supposed to prove?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Let's see how excited those people are when they have to write the check to those unions and trust me kid you don't have a clue as wot what you are talking about. The money goes directly from the taxpayer to the department heads to the unions. The employees don't get to see the money.
    the more you blabber on with this train of thought, the more foolish you sound, trust me kid.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    the more you blabber on with this train of thought, the more foolish you sound, trust me kid.
    LOL, love being called a kid by the "one liner" king. What is it about liberals that creates such loyalty to the union thugs? Do you have so little initiative and drive that you would resort to giving up your rights to someone else whose sole purpose is to retain power over you?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, love being called a kid by the "one liner" king. What is it about liberals that creates such loyalty to the union thugs? Do you have so little initiative and drive that you would resort to giving up your rights to someone else whose sole purpose is to retain power over you?
    keep blabbering on, you don't know what you are talking about, as has been proven over and over, you are making yourself look foolish.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    keep blabbering on, you don't know what you are talking about, as has been proven over and over, you are making yourself look foolish.
    Look, if you don't want to answer the questions, just say so? Don't blame you as it is hard to defend the indefensible. One of these days you are going to look back and ask yourself why did I waste so much time working in a union shop when I could have done so much more or on the other hand you will do what so many liberals do, blame someone else for their own personal failures of choice.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Look, if you don't want to answer the questions, just say so? Don't blame you as it is hard to defend the indefensible. One of these days you are going to look back and ask yourself why did I waste so much time working in a union shop when I could have done so much more or on the other hand you will do what so many liberals do, blame someone else for their own personal failures of choice.
    i love working in a union shop, making a fair wage with decent benefits...i love working in a union shop where i have a voice ....i love working in a union shop where the bargaining committee and the plant management can sit down and discuss issues...i love working in a union shop that has MORE WORK THAN IT KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH...nah, definitely not a waste of time...decent wage and benefits, job security, and process to resolve any grievances i may have..thank GOD FOR UNIONS...definitely will not have any regrets. UNION PROUD

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i love working in a union shop, making a fair wage with decent benefits...i love working in a union shop where i have a voice ....i love working in a union shop where the bargaining committee and the plant management can sit down and discuss issues...i love working in a union shop that has MORE WORK THAN IT KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH...nah, definitely not a waste of time...decent wage and benefits, job security, and process to resolve any grievances i may have..thank GOD FOR UNIONS...definitely will not have any regrets. UNION PROUD
    Yep, no risk and no reward for your hard work, just a wage slave. Unions give the appearance they are for the employee when the reality is they are in this for their own benefit. What are does your union leadership make? I was given some great advice a long time ago, "never look back and say you are sorry for anything that you did or decision you made" and that is so true. That is something you will face years from now when you realize how unions have kept you down and you are going to wonder why I wasted my money on that kind of support. You have no clue whether or not you will have regrets today because you refuse to accept advice from those who have been there.

    You seem to have so little regard for yourself just like all union workers that you delegate authority to others to make decisions for you. How do you know you couldn't do better outside the union? What is a decent wage for you and what happens when those wages don't keep up with what you want or need? You are limiting yourself because of the belief in unions. That is brainwashing on the part of unions. You are better than you are willing to accept.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, no risk and no reward for your hard work, just a wage slave. Unions give the appearance they are for the employee when the reality is they are in this for their own benefit. What are does your union leadership make? I was given some great advice a long time ago, "never look back and say you are sorry for anything that you did or decision you made" and that is so true. That is something you will face years from now when you realize how unions have kept you down and you are going to wonder why I wasted my money on that kind of support. You have no clue whether or not you will have regrets today because you refuse to accept advice from those who have been there.

    You seem to have so little regard for yourself just like all union workers that you delegate authority to others to make decisions for you. How do you know you couldn't do better outside the union? What is a decent wage for you and what happens when those wages don't keep up with what you want or need? You are limiting yourself because of the belief in unions. That is brainwashing on the part of unions. You are better than you are willing to accept.
    lol...do you know how foolish you sound? again, speaking of things of which you have no knowledge, no background, and obviously no clue about.

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