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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    You have yet to prove anyone wrong on any issue but you do cheerlead a lot. How does the union dues get paid by the teachers in Wisconsin? Do they write a check or have it automatically deducted and sent to the union? Let me answer it for you, it is a payroll deduction thus taxpayer money goes directly to the unions as the employee never gets the money even though part of his/her compensation.
    feel like i'm talking to a brick wall...maybe i am...this has been explained to you over and over, keep ignoring it and keep making yourself look foolish

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    feel like i'm talking to a brick wall...maybe i am...this has been explained to you over and over, keep ignoring it and keep making yourself look foolish
    I can see why you work for a union, do you know what a payroll deduction is? The income earner doesn't see the money,only the deduction in the paycheck. That money goes directly from the employer to the unions and the employer gets the money from the taxpayer. Pretty simple concept that seems to go right over your head.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    I can see why you work for a union, do you know what a payroll deduction is? The income earner doesn't see the money,only the deduction in the paycheck. That money goes directly from the employer to the unions and the employer gets the money from the taxpayer. Pretty simple concept that seems to go right over your head.
    Then why does anyone care how much Wisconsin teachers put into their pension fund? Or pay toward their health insurance? It's all taxpayer money anyway...yes? No.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Then why does anyone care how much Wisconsin teachers put into their pension fund? Or pay toward their health insurance? It's all taxpayer money anyway...yes? No.
    It is indeed taxpayer money but less of it goes into the retirement and healthcare accounts. Right now not only are the taxpayers funding the union employees but also 100% of their healthcare and pensions, or double dipping.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    It is indeed taxpayer money but less of it goes into the retirement and healthcare accounts. Right now not only are the taxpayers funding the union employees but also 100% of their healthcare and pensions, or double dipping.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    I can see why you work for a union, do you know what a payroll deduction is? The income earner doesn't see the money,only the deduction in the paycheck. That money goes directly from the employer to the unions and the employer gets the money from the taxpayer. Pretty simple concept that seems to go right over your head.
    again, showing your ignorance here...i don't work for a union, i belong to a union....do you understand what a payroll deduction is? those wages have been EARNED...THEY BELONG TO THE PERSON BEING PAID....THAT PERSON UNDERSTANDS WHEN THEY HIRE IN THAT THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DUES.....THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR DUES WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECK, MUCH LIKE FEDERAL INCOME TAX, SOCIAL SECURITY .....not understanding why you have such a hard time understanding this, and to continue to claim that the employer is paying the employee's union dues , when this is coming out of wages the employee has EARNED, THAT THE EMPLOYER HAS NO CLAIM TO...you are making yourself look foolish.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    again, showing your ignorance here...i don't work for a union, i belong to a union....do you understand what a payroll deduction is? those wages have been EARNED...THEY BELONG TO THE PERSON BEING PAID....THAT PERSON UNDERSTANDS WHEN THEY HIRE IN THAT THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DUES.....THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR DUES WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECK, MUCH LIKE FEDERAL INCOME TAX, SOCIAL SECURITY .....not understanding why you have such a hard time understanding this, and to continue to claim that the employer is paying the employee's union dues , when this is coming out of wages the employee has EARNED, THAT THE EMPLOYER HAS NO CLAIM TO...you are making yourself look foolish.
    LOL, you definitely work for a union. The money never gets to the employee, it is a payroll deduction and comes right from the employer who gets the money from the taxpayer. Pretty simple concept and I don't see anyone but the braindead thinking that I am looking foolish. The issue is taxpayer money going directly to the unions and since the union employee doesn't see the money that is exactly what happens. Walker's bill will require the union employees to write a check for their union dues, good for him.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    that is absolutely true, public union employees are paid by the taxpayer and forced to participate in the union if they want the job thus have no choice but to contribute some of their taxpayer funded paycheck to the unions. Logic 101 says taxpayer funds are going to the unions.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    You don't add the $3 trillion cost of the two decade long wars we are fighting and put on the tab, I see.
    Man you are plain over the top when it comes to rhetoric....first I remember libs saying that the wars cost $500 billion, then a trillion, now you just throw out there $3 trillion....haha, hell why not just say a gazillion dollars.....Since we are talking meaningless terms.....lol


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