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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Wow!!!!!! GOOD response!!!!!!!!!! I'm Switching sides!!!!!!!


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    This may be the way out of the deal for the GOP. Pass a bill which is obviously a violation of the State Constitution but save face in doing so. Months from now it is declared as such by the courts and the whole thing just whimpers away while normalcy has returned.

    They know they lost public opinion and they know the Senate Dems are not going to give in so this is the way they attempt to save face, declare victory and later blame activist judges for overturning their actions.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This may be the way out of the deal for the GOP. Pass a bill which is obviously a violation of the State Constitution but save face in doing so. Months from now it is declared as such by the courts and the whole thing just whimpers away while normalcy has returned.

    They know they lost public opinion and they know the Senate Dems are not going to give in so this is the way they attempt to save face, declare victory and later blame activist judges for overturning their actions.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    1. Democrats and Republicans both feed greedy ****s (I would never deny this), I have a hard time getting over the fact that the greediest of them all love the Republican Party and not to mention that least greedy of them all are Democrats who encourage the government to increase their taxes.
    2. Being an independent doesn't meant that you don't subscribe to any conservative values or make any conservative arguments. Independent doesn't mean neutral.
    3. I've studied plenty. I'm glad you make businesses the poor little guys who were forced to leave the country because the unions had to many demands. I've heard this argument made many a time...by conservatives. Businesses (not all, but many) are greedy - that's why they move their business to places where they can underpay their workers and let them work in horrible conditions - see a famous case - Nike.
    4. Like I said, the U.S. is capable of meeting the demands of the unions because they ****ing agreed to make monetary concessions so long as they could keep collective bargaining...Walker doesn't care.
    5. It is interesting how they are so adamant about attacking working class salaries and not adamant about attacking wealthy people who can afford to give a little extra in taxes. Why are working class people supposed to sacrifice but not wealthy people who still get multi-million dollar bonuses and lower taxes.
    Least GREEDY? Really? I suppose that lack of greed is why they are marching on the Capital as we speak? Or why, some Bus Drivers in Wisconsin average over 100 k a year in salary. Collective Bargaining is not a CIVIL RIGHT especially in the public sector..what was granted by an act of legislation can be just as easily rescinded by an act of legislation, and that is the process that is now playing out, the democrats are simply throwing a tantrum, at the end of the day....what's going to happen is going to happen the Eagle can **** only so much funny money. What is so difficult to comprehend about one simple word.....

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    314 Police and Fire Unions in Wisconsin........

    .......out of the 314.....4 of them endorsed Walker.

    Please cease and desist from your liberal talking points......
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    This is the only post that kills one of my arguments. I should have investigated that harder. The rest of my points still stand though. The greediest love the Republican Party for a reason and the unions are not in any way as evil and damaging as many here are making them out to be.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I believe the tactic now is going to be recall, and the GOP just gave one hell of a huge boost to the recall effort against 8 Republicans in that state. There is no doubt either that Walker himself will be recalled next year.
    Bookmark this for next year.......when the recall effort goes down in flames.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Let's make a wager Hay.....Walker is recalled I leave the website...he isn't...you do?


    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This may be the way out of the deal for the GOP. Pass a bill which is obviously a violation of the State Constitution but save face in doing so. Months from now it is declared as such by the courts and the whole thing just whimpers away while normalcy has returned.

    They know they lost public opinion and they know the Senate Dems are not going to give in so this is the way they attempt to save face, declare victory and later blame activist judges for overturning their actions.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Least GREEDY? Really? I suppose that lack of greed is why they are marching on the Capital as we speak? Or why, some Bus Drivers in Wisconsin average over 100 k a year in salary. Collective Bargaining is not a CIVIL RIGHT especially in the public sector..what was granted by an act of legislation can be just as easily rescinded by an act of legislation, and that is the process that is now playing out, the democrats are simply throwing a tantrum, at the end of the day....what's going to happen is going to happen the Eagle can **** only so much funny money. What is so difficult to comprehend about one simple word.....

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    I want to respond to this fully, but I'm losing my ability to respond to people in this thread with the respect that I usually want to.

    Suffice it to say, I still disagree with you. Like I said, the unions agreed to monetary terms that would help the budget...which answers your 'BROKE' comment. The end.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    I am really surprised by this, actually. It's almost unbelievable. I think that Republicans probably dotted their i's and crossed their t's on this....so it'll probably stand. Now we wait to see if unions can convince enough average Wisconsinites to recall some of the Republicans.....and if the Republicans recall less Dems...and roll back the legislation. Personally, I don't think that's going to be particularly easy. Democracy in action, I guess.

    As for the tactic, I say, Good for them. Governor Walker, you rock.
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