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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    it's their money, mr moore
    So is my money my money, but I pay a higher rate!

    Since it is their money, shouldn't they keep all of it, by your standards?




    why, you poor thing
    I'm not poor, but I still don't get coddled by the Republican party - so I guess I'm not uber wealthy, like all of those defending the right for the rich to pay a lower rate!



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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I did, and in the next sentence I qualified that with stating that taxdollars paid as compensation for labor is no longer taxpayer dollars, but private dollars. This is in fact the definition of dishonesty. You are purposefully distorting and taking out of context one sentence to try to make it seem like I am saying something else. If you refuse to be honest, there is no point in debating. Liars will just lie and distorters will just distort to try to make their opinion seem like fact. But it is not honest. All I asked was for a bit of honesty. Can you provide it? There is no point in continuing if you can't.
    You can’t expect an honest debate from either he or conservative, that’s why I wish we had this forum front and center like we used to. If we still had Battle Grounds and Disputations front and center, some of the lames we have would be exposed for the lames that they are.Just my 2c.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    Since it is their money, shouldn't they keep all of it, by your standards?
    ask obama, ask clinton

    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    going down NOW in sacramento---TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS IN CUTS

    "and democrats insist they'll vote for them"

    Live: Votes on California Budget | KQED News Fix

    still to be determined---will moonbeam get his special, will californians vote (if he does) higher taxes on themselves

    but DONE as a deal---TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS IN CUTS

    no abstraction, that---12 bil

    no petty personal point, no gamey gotcha

    so here we are TODAY---

    in OHIO, as important a presidential as prevails, kasich goes FARTHER than walker, and it's already LAW

    in INDIANA, mitch daniels ENDED collective bargaining in 05 and was REELECTED in 08 with SIXTY PERCENT

    in MICHIGAN, the assembly has given snyder MARTIAL LAW to TEAR UP existing contracts with cities and counties and usd's, all in order to slash AND burn

    in ILLINOIS, still ALL blue, quinn says he SUPPORTS the assemblies' aggregate assault on TEACHERS, who hold the entire precious progeny of the planet in our underpaid and unappreciated palms

    in MARYLAND, the most liberal state outside the northeast, the SEIU's and AFSCME's are progressively protesting omalley's MALLET

    in NEW YORK, cuomo is TALKING TUFFER than REAGAN, and andrew's boy don't even SMILE

    in JERSEY, another reliably blue bellwether, corpulent chris CHRISTIE is terminating left and right in trenton

    and now my state, CALIFORNIA---TWELVE BILLION DOLLARS in BALANCE

    there's your lay of the land, libs

    quibble on, quiz kids

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Show me some taxpayer’s money the unions dumped in the Wisconsin race. The Republican Governors Association, managed to run $5 million worth of ads in the state after Koch wrote a million-dollar check for them though. Then Koch Industries, through its PAC, donated $43,000 to Mr. Walker's campaign.
    You have been shown over and over how taxpayer money gets to the unions, you choose to ignore it.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Koch Industries gave Walker $43,000 in direct contributions, then looked in the other pocket coughed up another $1 mill for the Republican Governors association. So what did the govs do you ask? Do what Repugs do best, run lying adds mostly against Walkers opponent, to the tune of $5 mill.

    One of the first shots in the drive for a CORP AMERICA headed by the heirs to the principal founder of the John birch Society, David and Charles Koch.

    Wake up America, or you will be a working for Koch Industries or one of its subsidiaries, such as the “Americans for Prosperity Foundation”. Who has tentacles in 32 states so far and growing. Whose main job is reversing environmental laws, eliminate unions.That is all.

    WALKER, SCOTT | Follow The Money
    Private business employs people who pay taxes, pays taxes themselves, contributes to charities all without taxpayer money.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Private business employs people who pay taxes, pays taxes themselves, contributes to charities all without taxpayer money.
    rotten bastards!

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Show me some taxpayer’s money the unions dumped in the Wisconsin race. The Republican Governors Association, managed to run $5 million worth of ads in the state after Koch wrote a million-dollar check for them though. Then Koch Industries, through its PAC, donated $43,000 to Mr. Walker's campaign.
    So, how is Koch responsible for that other 4 million, exactly???

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You have been shown over and over how taxpayer money gets to the unions, you choose to ignore it.
    once someone has performed a service, and recieved payment for services rendered, the money they recieve is called WAGES...i know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but please try, and when they recieve those wages, these wages are THEIR OWN TO SPEND AS THEY SEE FIT....just because you may have been the one to pay them, THAT DOESNT GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO TELL THEM HOW THEY SHOULD SPEND IT....i know i've explained this to you befoe, and i can't believe you are going down this road again. it is quite simply NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    once someone has performed a service, and recieved payment for services rendered, the money they recieve is called WAGES...i know this is a hard concept for you to grasp, but please try, and when they recieve those wages, these wages are THEIR OWN TO SPEND AS THEY SEE FIT....just because you may have been the one to pay them, THAT DOESNT GIVE YOU ANY RIGHT TO TELL THEM HOW THEY SHOULD SPEND IT....i know i've explained this to you befoe, and i can't believe you are going down this road again. it is quite simply NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT.
    But it is ok for unions to tell them what they have to spend it on, right? Of course in your world union dues is money well spent.

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