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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Who is responsible for state and/or federal income taxes, social security tax and medicare tax on the money that is transferred to the union?

    That will tell you whose money is funding the union.




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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    OVER THE NEXT DECADE!!! That is 100 billion dollars a year out of a 3.7 trillion dollar govt. and a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit AND IT IS A PROJECTION. Take it all and you now have a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit. You are absolutely amazingly ill informed and understand very little. Think instead of posting.
    That's a trillion for the Bush tax cuts alone, now go back and add in the even bigger tax cuts under Reagan for the last 30 years. We have given away several trillions of dollars in revenues that could have been used to reduce our debt.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    That's a trillion for the Bush tax cuts alone, now go back and add in the even bigger tax cuts under Reagan for the last 30 years. We have given away several trillions of dollars in revenues that could have been used to reduce our debt.
    That is 100 billion dollars a year, it isn't all at once and has a very small impact on the deficit even if it wasn't spent in the economy that reduces the impact. Your ignorance is staggering. What the hell do those rich people do with their tax cuts? You don't think rich people employe people who pay taxes? You don't believe that rich people spend their money which leads to purchases which affects employment and people who pay taxes? This isn't a zero sum game but it is a private sector economy. Would love to know how you create jobs without people spending money?

    By the way your article is from 2007 and is a PROJECTION!! Do you understand projections and how accurate they are? Try Obama's projections the past three years and tell me how accurate they were?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    That is 100 billion dollars a year, it isn't all at once and has a very small impact on the deficit even if it wasn't spent in the economy that reduces the impact. Your ignorance is staggering. What the hell do those rich people do with their tax cuts? You don't think rich people employe people who pay taxes? You don't believe that rich people spend their money which leads to purchases which affects employment and people who pay taxes? This isn't a zero sum game but it is a private sector economy. Would love to know how you create jobs without people spending money?

    By the way your article is from 2007 and is a PROJECTION!! Do you understand projections and how accurate they are? Try Obama's projections the past three years and tell me how accurate they were?
    Yeah, it actually turned out to be $150 billion a year. But what's a $150 billion a year right? Only more than the GOP controlled WH and Congress cut in spending in any year they were in control. And what has the $150 billion giveaway to the rich done for the middle class, it has been declining. And what has it done to repay our debt, nothing.

    It has only made the wealthy more wealthy. I am not interested in our opinion. Show facts that dispute that the middle class has stagnated while the rich have grown richer?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Who is responsible for state and/or federal income taxes, social security tax and medicare tax on the money that is transferred to the union?

    That will tell you whose money is funding the union.




    I'm bettin' it ain't taxpayers. . . .
    Where's the money come from to pay all that?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Hell, we could just cut spending...but that would make too much sense.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That's a trillion for the Bush tax cuts alone, now go back and add in the even bigger tax cuts under Reagan for the last 30 years. We have given away several trillions of dollars in revenues that could have been used to reduce our debt.
    Catawba, I think you win the prize for the longest derail of a thread. What do the tax cuts have to do with this subject?? Really. If you are trying to say, "See!!! See what Republicans do!!! They take from the little guy and give to the rich!!!" Please remember that President Obama endorsed them, for heaven's sake. He called on Congress to cut the corporate tax rate: Obama Backs Corporate Rate Cut Along With Tax Simplification - Bloomberg

    He (with Bill Clinton's endorsement, by the way) agreed to the very upper-income tax cuts you rail on about:

    The latest "compromise" on the Bush tax cuts, extending the upper-income tax cuts for two years in exchange for the continuation of unemployment benefits, is simply the latest in a series of capitulations from the Obama White House.
    Obama Caves on Tax Cuts, Endorses 'Bush-McCain Philosophy' | The Nation

    Endorsed this one:

    The White House said Monday (Jan. 31) that its budget proposal would include the recommendation that a temporary tax cut for those who invest in small businesses be made permanent. Investors who put money into small businesses and hold on to the investments for at least five years would get a break in capital gains taxes after they sell, according to the Los Angeles Times.
    Obama Endorses Permanent Tax Cuts for Small Business | Facebook & AOL | Business News Daily

    I think it's time you stopped being disingenuous and began calling this the Obama tax cuts, don't you?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Hell, we could just cut spending...but that would make too much sense.
    I'm up for that. We can start by the tax cuts to the rich that cost us a trillion dollars each decade and by cutting our military budget back to a non-imperiaistic level.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yeah, it actually turned out to be $150 billion a year. But what's a $150 billion a year right? Only more than the GOP controlled WH and Congress cut in spending in any year they were in control. And what has the $150 billion giveaway to the rich done for the middle class, it has been declining. And what has it done to repay our debt, nothing.

    It has only made the wealthy more wealthy. I am not interested in our opinion. Show facts that dispute that the middle class has stagnated while the rich have grown richer?
    You don't get it and never will. I am not sure this isn't an act for attention. It was a projection and didn't take into account any benefit those tax cuts generated for the economy. How you can claim it is a give away for people to keep more of their own money says a lot about you. Is your income an expense to the govt?

    I can honestly see why people like you aren't part of that rich as you have no clue about innovation, creativity, risk taking and instead need the entitlement state. You buy the partisan bs that you believe supports your position not realizing how foolish it makes you look. If there was a 150 billion in lost revenue to the govt, why didn't the govt. cut spending 150 billion to offset it?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What do the tax cuts have to do with this subject??
    The class war!
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