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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So they cannot keep their job unless they pay their union dues ... I agree they have a choice, I'm not arguing they don't.

    So taxpayer money goes to the public sector via a line item in the budget in the form of public teacher salary - a portion (%) of that salary then is required to go to the union in the form of dues (or the teacher can quit and that portion will not go to the union), and the union then uses that money for various thing, one of them being support for Democrats elections who are sympathetic towards the unions.

    So follow the money...

    Of courses it would be ok if it went to a Republican that was sympathetic to unions, like the four police and fire dept locals that backed Walker.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    In my opinion, the only way taxpayer dollars fund the public sector unions that cover teachers in Wisconsin is through the union's wholly-owned insurance company that provides health coverage for 2/3 of teachers in Wisconsin. That mandatory insurance carrier was bargained into union contracts. That's changed now. With the new legislation, there will be competition, and municipalities are confident this will result in significant savings.

    If that particular scheme is what you're talking about, then I would agree with you that unions are partially funded by taxpayer dollars.

    If you are saying that their union dues are taxpayer dollars, then I disagree. Teachers are paid a salary. Once that salary is in their hands, it's their money.

    Oops. Here's the link for information about the union's enforced health plan: More districts now could drop insurance arm of teachers union - JSOnline
    and people keep saying that taking away collective bargaining is all about union busting and not the money.

    More districts now could drop insurance arm of teachers union - JSOnline
    Because WEA Trust is named as the carrier in so many school district contracts, it has been largely shielded from such competition in the past, said Andy Serio, a group health insurance consultant.
    "There literally is no competition if you're named in the collective bargaining agreement, so that would be the most dramatic effect on WEA," he said. "Because clearly, if you're in a collective bargaining agreement, you're in."
    At the beginning of this fiscal year, last July 1, the Brown Deer School District began using a different carrier after years with WEA Trust. The district saved $170,000 in just one year - the equivalent of at least two teachers
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Those teachers who did this should be charged with child abuse.


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    Notice how the supporters of unions ignore videos like this one? Goes to show just how leftwing many are, many that we give the benefit of doubt. This is just like Nazi Germany where people were brainwashed by an ideology and suffered as a result. People in Wisconsin are going to suffer as a result of this indoctrination and any "success" from their efforts. Unions are a drain on the economy of anything they touch and have outlived their usefulness.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Of courses it would be ok if it went to a Republican that was sympathetic to unions, like the four police and fire dept locals that backed Walker.
    Support for pubic union full collective bargaining rights is never valid regardless of who they support. Want to bet that their union dues went to the Scott Walker campaign?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It apparently isn't a problem for you for Unions to tell their workers that they have to pay union dues?

    Seems to be quite a misunderstanding of how public unions vs. private unions work. See if this explains it better?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4Pw...layer_embedded

    That was awesome. Even I understood it. I loved the protest signs. LOL
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    This thread isn't about the teamsters or what is going on in Wasila. Just admit you are wrong and let's move on

    Thread title is Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights ...Check.


    But,but,it is about the public sector isn't it? The last I heard Police were considered public sector employees, unless somehow, someway, a winger gov or mayer manages to Wackenhut the police dept.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Support for pubic union full collective bargaining rights is never valid regardless of who they support. Want to bet that their union dues went to the Scott Walker campaign?
    Sure, whats the bet?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It really is semantics. The more pressing problem is with the relationship between unions and the democrat party.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Sure, whats the bet?
    Then you should have no problem proving that union money went to Walker as it should be public record in Wisconsin.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    Thread title is “Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights “...Check.


    But,but,it is about the public sector isn't it? The last I heard Police were considered public sector employees, unless somehow, someway, a winger gov or mayer manages to Wackenhut the police dept.
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