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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You asked why I thought unions have declined over the years, and I gave you my opinion here:
    perhaps it's things like this that has turned people off towards unions ..

    One of the benefits negotiated by the United Auto Workers was the jobs bank program, under which laid-off members received 95 percent of their take-home pay and benefits. More than 12,000 UAW members were paid this benefit in 2005 Each person costs GM around $100,000 to $130,000 in wages and benefits, according to internal union and company figures.

    Now doing a bit of quick math, that comes out to about 1.2 Billion dollars that GM was paying in wages in 2005, for workers that weren't working.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    How is it cut substantially? For the current budget year, it represents almost nothing. Had you raised taxes on the rich, Obama's 1.5 trillion dollar deficit would have at best been reduced to 1.47 trillion
    Regan brought down the top tax rate from 70 to 38 percent. If it was raised back to 70 percent, where it really should be, the increased taxes would easily balance the budget with enough left over to pay back some of the national debt.

    If the top 2 percent were real patriots, not just aimless, selfish hedonists, they would gladly give back the largess gift and squeak by on a measly 3 to 6 million a year.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think people forgot how important unions were to improve working conditions and compensation and to provide a balance to corporate influence over government.
    ah, they forgot

    LOL!

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Regan brought down the top tax rate from 70 to 38 percent. If it was raised back to 70 percent, where it really should be, the increased taxes would easily balance the budget with enough left over to pay back some of the national debt.

    If the top 2 percent were real patriots, not just aimless, selfish hedonists, they would gladly give back the largess gift and squeak by on a measly 3 to 6 million a year.

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    Except, the top bracket doesn't include only people earning millions, but anything 375k or above.
    I give nearly as much money to charity as I do in taxes and I don't earn millions. I am not selfish at all.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    With no quorum, only one party, the vote isn't legal.
    sue him

    good luck

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    public unions get their money from public employees funded by the taxpayers.

    No, they get their money from United States Citizens, who happen to be public employees who have the same rights as the Citizens of the rest of the country. That would also include the right to represented by the union of their choice.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    45% of union voters chose rob portman in ohio, 44% picked pat toomey (a tea drinker) in PA

    Many Union Votes Go to GOP in Pa., Ohio - Washington Wire - WSJ

    scott brown, #41, beat martha coakley amongst afl-cio'ers in chappaquiddick, 49 to 46

    AFL-CIO Poll: Union Members Voted for Brown over Coakley in “Working Class Revolt” | Work in Progress

    this trend too of union households dumping the party in power and looking to lipton is spreading nationwide

    and public employees from new york to california, with illinois and michigan and wisconsin and indiana in between, are gonna be SLASHED

    starting NOW

    good luck

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Regan brought down the top tax rate from 70 to 38 percent. If it was raised back to 70 percent, where it really should be, the increased taxes would easily balance the budget with enough left over to pay back some of the national debt.

    If the top 2 percent were real patriots, not just aimless, selfish hedonists, they would gladly give back the largess gift and squeak by on a measly 3 to 6 million a year.

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    You are kidding, right? You believe a 70% tax rate will pay down the debt and put 15 million unemployed Americans back to work. There isn't enough revenue to fund the govt. this size as you cannot take enough money from the rich to pay down the debt, no matter what the percentage. You don't seem to comprehend the size of 14.3 TRILLION dollars.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    No, they get their money from United States Citizens, who happen to be public employees who have the same rights as the Citizens of the rest of the country. That would also include the right to represented by the union of their choice.
    This has been explained to you over and over again, a waste of time.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by donc View Post
    No, they get their money from United States Citizens, who happen to be public employees who have the same rights as the Citizens of the rest of the country. That would also include the right to represented by the union of their choice.
    While that's true, it doesn't negate what he said. They get their money from "public employees". "United States Citizens, who happen to be public employees" are included under the umbrella of "public employees".
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