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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Here, let's use a source you libs love so...The CBO...





    Now I know you libs hate Reagan so much that you would just love to blame the guy, but the numbers show that to be a lie. I am shocked.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That $858 billion isn't going to pay my debt, anyway.
    Over time it will. Look how much it has increased your national debt over the last 30 years!
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Over time it will.
    No it won't!


    Look how much it has increased your national debt over the last 30 years!
    The $11 trillion+ that we've spent on the war on poverty didn't have anything to do with that? Is that right?

    Maybe we should put more effort into not spending so much money on stupid **** and less effort in trying to screw American citizens out of their money, in the name of class warfare? Just saying.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, the tax giveaway to the top 1% is killing us. Obama and Congress are going to have to man up and end the tax breaks for the wealthiest (in addition to any spending cuts that can be agreed on) in order to reduce the debt.
    You realize that businesses, both large and small, will see their taxes rise, too? How is that going to fix things?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post

    The $11 trillion+ that we've spent on the war on poverty didn't have anything to do with that? Is that right?
    Reaganomics created more poverty. The tax cuts to the super rich just means more debt and taxes for you.

    Maybe we should put more effort into not spending so much money on stupid **** and less effort in trying to screw American citizens out of their money, in the name of class warfare? Just saying.
    How has that worked out during the last 30 years when we decided to cut our income and not cut spending by the same amount? And who has gotten stuck with the tab? You have. Just saying..........
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You realize that businesses, both large and small, will see their taxes rise, too? How is that going to fix things?
    Tax the super rich as we used to, it had no effect on our ability to produce, just less profits for the super rich, which tend to go into overseas savings or investments, that in addition to cutting our wasteful spending .

    Its foolish to think we can ever get our debt reduced otherwise.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Reaganomics created more poverty. The tax cuts to the super rich just means more debt and taxes for you.




    How has that worked out during the last 30 years when we decided to cut our income and not cut spending by the same amount? And who has gotten stuck with the tab? You have. Just saying..........
    Ask the Dems. They've been in charge for the better part of that time.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Tax the super rich as we used to, it had no effect on our ability to produce, just less profits for the super rich, which tend to go into overseas savings or investments, that in addition to cutting our wasteful spending .

    Its foolish to think we can ever get our debt reduced otherwise.
    If we're going to do that, we should lower the earned income credit, as well. Yes? I mean, it's all about everyone paying their fair share, right?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Reaganomics created more poverty. The tax cuts to the super rich just means more debt and taxes for you.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. the Poverty rate, although some fluctuation over the decades, stays around 12% regardless of what you do. Oh, And what do you mean by "the Super Rich"? Is this where you start using Michael Moore's talking points instead of Daily KOS?


    How has that worked out during the last 30 years when we decided to cut our income and not cut spending by the same amount?

    Yep, spending is a part of the reduction picture.....Tell me today who is more serious about that when you have repubs proposing $61 Billlion, and demo's saying $4 billion?


    And who has gotten stuck with the tab? You have. Just saying..........

    So have you brother. Unless you are saying that it is up to someone else to pay it and not you too. In which case I would only say, "See..."

    Tax the super rich as we used to, it had no effect on our ability to produce, just less profits for the super rich, which tend to go into overseas savings or investments, as well as cutting wasteful spending .

    Its foolish to think we can ever get our debt reduced otherwise.
    I am going to assume that you are talking about the country's 400 Billionair's. If that is what you are saying, then let clue you in. If you took every penny that those billionair's had, it would add up to around a Trillion dollars. That is Obama's deficit this year alone, and not even all of it. Now get real.


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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If we're going to do that, we should lower the earned income credit, as well. Yes? I mean, it's all about everyone paying their fair share, right?
    If your goal is get America's ratio of poor people higher than the 2009 one in seven, that would be the course you would take.
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