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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Boy, this story went quiet, didn't it? And not just because of an earthquake either.

    Americans don't have the time or patience for unions.

    The next set of elections in Wisconsin will be huge for unions. If Walker and his like are re-elected, that will be the proverbial nail in the coffin, so expect every union in the country to poor billions into campaigning in the Cheesehead state.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    reads that twice ..... that sounds like a play right out of the Obama playbook doesn't it?

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I am pissed at the blue dog Democrats, and evidently so were many voters as they took a beating at the 2010 election. And I guess you are just as pissed at the GOP for not decreasing spending when they controlled all branches of the government?
    You betcha I am, I have no respect for Republicans over the last 10 to 15 years..... that have become nothing more then a slightly moderate liberals in terms of spending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    You betcha I am, I have no respect for Republicans over the last 10 to 15 years..... that have become nothing more then a slightly moderate liberals in terms of spending.
    Hence, the tea party movement.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Boy, this story went quiet, didn't it? And not just because of an earthquake either.

    Americans don't have the time or patience for unions.

    The next set of elections in Wisconsin will be huge for unions. If Walker and his like are re-elected, that will be the proverbial nail in the coffin, so expect every union in the country to poor billions into campaigning in the Cheesehead state.
    Agree with you in one respect, there is a problem with that however, by the time all this washes out, there are going to be a bunch of states that are going to be doing things similar to this. That money is going to have to be spread around.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Hence, the tea party movement.
    yep, and what I like about them, it doesn't matter, Republican or Democrat, if you are for bigger government... and more spending, you don't get their vote
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

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    Then refute it, you telling me that if you want to be a teacher that you don't have to join a union and that union dues aren't mandatory? You are making a fool out of yourself.

    I already did in post #998, I know it’s a hard but try and keep up. By the way, what do you have against people that work for their money spending it the way they choose to spend it?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    it's coast to coast, it's a populist pulse of prodigious proportions

    illinois:

    You might think what Republicans are doing in the Wisconsin statehouse can't happen here in Illinois because Democrats are in charge in Springfield. But not even Democrats here in Illinois are happy about the statutes and contracts that give teachers so many benefits.

    John Cullerton, the state senate president, says changes are coming. “Tenure on getting rid of bad teachers and I can guarantee you. There’s great progress being made so far and we will have major school reform legislation this year.”

    Cullerton also wants to save big money in the state budget by moving pension payments for downstate teachers to local property taxes downstate.
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    you've heard by now about the MACHETE measures cuomo is mandating in new york

    the tens of B's of cuts moonbeam is being forced to make in CA

    in indiana, mitch daniels ended collective bargaining in 05, he was reelected in 08 with 60%, voters feel he's gone far to turn around the hoosier state

    kasich in ohio is a done deal

    christie is bullying the blues in trenton

    michigan will enact its anti union nuke option

    where next?

    the tsunami is two point five trillion dollars tall

    ie, you aint gonna be able to stop it

    and how will labor be able to leverage electorals forthcoming with drastically reduced largesse?

    party on, pals

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    Quote The Prof


    how will labor be able to leverage electorals forthcoming with drastically reduced largesse?
    Here is pretty good place to start, just keep this on the front burner.


    Rasmussen WI POLL:Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker= 34% Strongly Approve of the job he is doing, while 48% Strongly Disapprove.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans vote to strip public worker collective bargaining rights wi

    The State of the State begins with an honest analysis of the crisis that we face. We have the worst business tax climate in the nation, period. Our taxes are 66% higher than the national average. Upstate is truly an economic crisis. In real GDP, from 2001-2006, upstate New York grew about 1.7% per year while the average in the nation was 2.7%. The costs of pensions are exploding, 1.3 billion in 1998-1999, projected for 2013, 6.2 billion - a 476% increase and its only getting worse.

    The State of New York spends too much money, it is that blunt and it is that simple. Our spending has far exceeded the rate of inflation. From 1994-2009, inflation was about 2.7% per year; medicaid when up over 5% per year and education went up over 6% per year. We just can’t afford those rates of increase.

    And most damaging, our expenses in this state far exceed revenue. We’ve been focusing on this year and the deficit this year, which is a very large deficit about $10 billion, and that is a problem and it is a major problem; what’s worse, is it’s not just about this year. Next year, the problem goes to $14 billion. The year after, the deficit goes to $17 billion. This is not a one year problem my friends. This is a fundamental economic realignment for the State of New York.

    Not only do we spend too much, but we get too little in return. We spend more money on education than any state in the nation and we are number 34 in terms of results. We spend more money on Medicaid than any other state in the nation and we are number 21 in results. We spend about $1.6 billion per year in economic development and we are number 50 in terms of results.

    And the large government we have is all too often responsive to the special interests, over the people of the State of New York. And New Yorkers are voting with their feet. Two million New Yorkers have left the State over the past decade. What does this say? It says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now. This is a fundamental realignment for the state. We are going to redesign our approach because the old way wasn’t working anyway, let's be honest.

    We are going to start by transforming New York’s economy. Because what made New York the Empire State was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs in the State of New York. That’s what made us the Empire State once and that’s what’s going to make us the Empire State again. At the heart of his State is business. And we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says New York is open for business. We get it. And this is going to be a business friendly State.

    The property taxes in New York are killing New Yorkers. Thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in New York when assessed by home value. In absolute dollars, Westchester County has the highest property taxes in the United States of America. Nassau County the second highest property taxes in the United State of America. It has to end, it has to end this year. We have to hold the line on taxes for now and reduce taxes in the future. New York has no future as the tax capital of the nation. Our young people will not stay. Our business will not come. This has to change.
    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

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