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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    First of all my post was in response your ridiculous assertion that the UK is socialist. Any government/economy exists on a spectrum. Some economies have more governmental intervention than others, but that does not make them socialist. Even a "capitalist" economy like the US necessarily has many functions that are government-subsidized.

    As for the bolded part. You have any evidence to back that up? You don't think insurance companies in this country wouldn't let you die in order to make a buck? If you are suffering from a rare or degenerative disease in our healthcare system, the doctors are still required to treat you but if you can't afford the most advanced treatments then your days are still numbered.
    In fact, if it is a rare disease, it is likely the treatment will be considered "experimental", in which case, it will in all likelyhood be denied coverage. Why pay when you can deny coverage, get sued, and pay less?
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    It's amazing the mental gymnastics conservatives will do so that they can avoid the truth that socialized medicine has already proven that it can out perform privatized medicine.

    LOL....Such as which system of Socialized medicine might you be referring to?


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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    LOL....Such as which system of Socialized medicine might you be referring to?


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    Considering our life expectancy is relatively low and our costs are relatively high, while these countires life expectancies are relatively high and their costs are relatively low...

    Well, I'll let you do the math.
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    If you compare the calories and fats in a McDonalds / KFC / Burger King type meal and that of a similar sized fish and chips type meal you may find fish and chips is healthier. Not saying it's a health food - just less bad for you.

    It's the fried Mars Bar you can buy in many Scottish fish and chips shops that are bad for you but the thread is about England's health and not Scotland's...
    Dont know where you live but Fish & Chips harder to find here in London than a native English speaker.
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Considering our life expectancy is relatively low and our costs are relatively high, while these countires life expectancies are relatively high and their costs are relatively low...

    Well, I'll let you do the math.
    Most stuff in the US is much cheaper than in the UK. Electronic goods and food for one. It's our system of social healthcare. You guys might hate hearing it, but its the truth. The NHS is great, but not without its flaws.
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    LOL....Such as which system of Socialized medicine might you be referring to?


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    Well, it's hard to say, because you conservatives seem to have a definition of "socialized" that changes often. For example, buying healthcare from private insurance companies somehow manages to be called "socialism" these days.

    You guys also seem to change your definition of "outperform" whenever required to keep calling socialized medicine bad.

    So why don't you give your definition of those so I can answer properly.
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    The British have pretty messed up teeth. Americans are fat though. I'm not sure which is worse.

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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Most stuff in the US is much cheaper than in the UK. Electronic goods and food for one. It's our system of social healthcare. You guys might hate hearing it, but its the truth. The NHS is great, but not without its flaws.
    Yep, it's definitely true that the cost of living in general in Europe is higher. There's junk food I could buy for cheap at 7-Eleven here that costs twice as much in some European countries. I'm not sure exactly why that is though, importation and transportation costs might have something to do with it.

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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    It's Bush's fault.
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    Re: England 'healthier than the US

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    LOL....Such as which system of Socialized medicine might you be referring to?


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    J, I think this is the point whysoserious was trying to make:



    For all the money we spend on healthcare in this country, we aren't likely to be healthier compared to other industrialized nations. And the differences in costs are VERY dramatic.
    Last edited by StillBallin75; 03-09-11 at 05:16 PM.

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