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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    Ah politifact....The St. Pete times that was looked at for this and concluded that their editorial desk was Waaaaaaaay too involved with the supposed Fact Check to be honest....Again. Biased.


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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    What lying little deceptive cretins demo's are. Poison pills loaded in that 2,700 page pile of dung. No wonder we couldn't find out what's in the bill until we passed the bill..eh Nan?


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    you seem very hostile lately. can bachmann prove her assertions? your source seems just a tad biased, btw.

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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Yes. It's in there. Now, why should we be upset that congress actually funded a bill that they passed? Do you honestly think this money was purposefully hidden in the bill?

    You're damned right it was hidden. This is BS. And unAmerican, the way this was crammed down America's throat.


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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    Ah Obama's buddies to the rescue again eh? Now it's my turn to ask you to find a reputable source.


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    You still haven't given a source saying that the money was hidden. The CRS didn't say the money was hidden, just that it was in the bill. That's exactly what fact check said. Were not disagreeing with eachother unless you actually think that Dems slipped this spending into the bill right before it was passed and didn't let anyone know about it, which is hard to imagine considering that the CBO scored the bill with these expenses in it.
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    Ah politifact....The St. Pete times that was looked at for this and concluded that their editorial desk was Waaaaaaaay too involved with the supposed Fact Check to be honest....Again. Biased.


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    funny........bachmann must be blind.........others "found" those appropriations.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    How about the CRS, is that good enough?







    Ain't that nice....


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    Hey look, quote out of context...
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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ah politifact....The St. Pete times that was looked at for this and concluded that their editorial desk was Waaaaaaaay too involved with the supposed Fact Check to be honest....Again. Biased.


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    So it was not in the bill, the CBO manager is lying, and somehow democrats managed to get it in while they where not looking(even though it was in multiple versions of the bill)?
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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you seem very hostile lately. can bachmann prove her assertions? your source seems just a tad biased, btw.

    I am sure that any source that reports on this at all will be called biased by libs. But anyhoo.

    Bachmann's also not the first person to point this out. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, tried earlier this year, without success, to block the $105 billion. The money was the subject of a study by Heritage Foundation fellow and former congressman Ernest Istook in late January.

    Istook got his figures in large part from a Congressional Research Service report dated Oct. 14 of last year.

    Though the information has been floating around in various Washington studies, Istook said the inclusion of up-front spending in the health care law is "extremely unusual."

    "I am unaware of any other piece of authorizing legislation that included appropriations at all," he told FoxNews.com.

    Istook wrote in January that the inclusion of the money was a major foul on Democrats' part. He accused the bill's authors of bypassing the normal appropriations process to block any future Congress from meddling with the money.

    Bachmann Calls on Congress to Block $105B in Health Law Money - FoxNews.com

    So you tell me, would you feel all warm and fuzzy if repubs had a law they did this with?


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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

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    Hey look, quote out of context...
    Oh please put it into context for us....I am gonna love this...


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    Re: Bachmann: Health care law contains $105 billion in hidden pre-approved spending

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I am sure that any source that reports on this at all will be called biased by libs. But anyhoo.




    So you tell me, would you feel all warm and fuzzy if repubs had a law they did this with?


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    Let's just be honest. If this were a bill you agreed with you wouldn't give two ****s that the bill actually spent money in order to fund the bill.

    As long as you argue from the position that this money, that was in multiple versions of the bill and was scored by the CBO and wasn't tossed in at the last minute, was "hidden" in the bill then I think that proves you aren't here for honest debate and I'd rather not waste my time debating something that really should be plainly obvious to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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