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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    Before we come to any conclusions I think someone needs to figure out WHY this phenomenon exists.

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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

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    Before we come to any conclusions I think someone needs to figure out WHY this phenomenon exists.
    I think it may have something to do with this...

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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    The military and military leadership being predominantly male is a good thing. A society that loses any significant portion of its young female population is in danger of demographic crisis. A society that doesn't have the good sense to protect its women and keep them out of combat to the best of their ability is on the path to destruction. We understand this on an instinctual level, based on our collective response to female casualties.

    As for the military being predominantly white, maybe if the liberals didn't spend so damn much time whining about "the poor man dying in the rich man's wars", more minority men would see the military as the career and educational opportunity that it is.
    You and I agree on a lot of things, Kori, but this is where I totally disagree with you. A lot of minorities already exist in the military and it has nothing to do with the "poor man dying in the rich man's wars," but it also can't be denied that the policymakers who end up sending our troops to war, and society in general, are divorced from the realities of the sacrifices and tough existence that many servicemen/women have to go through. I think this is a huge problem.

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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    This thread is now official boring.
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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Before we come to any conclusions I think someone needs to figure out WHY this phenomenon exists.
    But it's so much easier to assume that this is just PC bull**** and that there isn't any actual discrimination going on. No sense going and actually checking.
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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

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    This thread is now official boring.
    Minority's make up a smaller portion of the general population. So it would make sense they would make up smaller portions at the top.

    This is a stupid proposal, that's what is really boring.

    Make up in 2000, it has changed a few percentage points, but not enough to make any real difference for this example...

    Whites: 69.13%
    Hispanic: 12.55%
    Black: 12.6%
    Women In The Military: 20%

    Now lets look at the article...

    Seventy-seven percent of senior officers in the active-duty military are white, while only 8 percent are black, 5 percent are Hispanic and 16 percent are women, the report by an independent panel said, quoting data from September 2008.

    77% are white males.
    8% are black.
    5% are Hispanic.
    16% are women.

    The only disparity I see is with Hispanics. We don't know the level of recruitment within the Hispanic community or the education levels, so even that may be acceptable.

    A non issue.
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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Minority's make up a smaller portion of the general population. So it would make sense they would make up smaller portions at the top.

    This is a stupid proposal, that's what is really boring.

    Make up in 2000, it has changed a few percentage points, but not enough to make any real difference for this example...

    Whites: 69.13%
    Hispanic: 12.55%
    Black: 12.6%
    Women In The Military: 20%

    Now lets look at the article...

    Seventy-seven percent of senior officers in the active-duty military are white, while only 8 percent are black, 5 percent are Hispanic and 16 percent are women, the report by an independent panel said, quoting data from September 2008.

    77% are white males.
    8% are black.
    5% are Hispanic.
    16% are women.

    The only disparity I see is with Hispanics. We don't know the level of recruitment within the Hispanic community or the education levels, so even that may be acceptable.

    A non issue.
    This is very true and I would just like to point out that there absolutely should be less women in leadership roles than the actual percentage of women that make up the military because women cannot be in certain jobs, including combat roles and (at the present time, due to the very small numbers of women that would even be involved in the trial period) submarines (ntm, no women on subs at the time this study was conducted). Some of those jobs are opening up to women and some may eventually open up to women with time and a possible change to culture, but since many are and were not available during any of this study, then the percentages should be low overall for the numbers to come out right overall. In fact, I'd say that the numbers of women in leadership roles are probably too high in some units/jobs due to too much PC-ism leading to some women being promoted who shouldn't have been. I do think that a lot of women work really hard in their military jobs, I knew plenty of women in the Navy who absolutely deserved the jobs they were assigned and were very good at them. But there are some that do get by and promoted because some of the men above them either did it themselves or gave them enough recognition/awards/whatever to get them promoted because they are women.
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    Re: Report says too many whites, men leading military

    OMG! Affirmative Action is the last thing we need in our military.
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