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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I did. Loss in major transnational sponsors is loss in revenue. Are you asking for actual numbers to what is a fact of free market economics in the media world? More proof that your work in the business world wasn't above bagging somebody's vegetables.
    No, actually you just showed that he has different sponsors now. You presented no proof that he is charging his new sponsors less or that his revenue has dropped.

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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So either more PG13 viewers bought things than PG-MA viewers do, if your ratings facts are correct. That could indicate better marketing / targeting of product and services for the audience viewers or, it identifies a better match between viewers and products/services being advertised.
    We are going somewhat off topic, and it's a topic of interest to me so it's hard for me to shut up, so...

    ...It's not that they bought more things, it is that for examples Snickers. They did not want their brand associated with a product where in one episode a woman was made to strip to her underwear and bark like a dog. Mattel needless to say did not want anything to do with anything like what was going on. Now those are two big sponsors and advertisers. Wrestling always had high ratings and in the popular demographic for advertisers, but no one wanted to be associated with WWE.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So either more PG13 viewers bought things than PG-MA viewers do, if your ratings facts are correct. That could indicate better marketing / targeting of product and services for the audience viewers or, it identifies a better match between viewers and products/services being advertised.
    I'll try to explain it a bit better Ockham.

    When the WWE was TV-MA they had trouble getting big dollar advertisers. It wasn't that the rating were bad (it wasn't) or that people didn't likely purchase the products, but it was more about imaging and being associated with wrestling and the type of stuff that was put on there.

    The WWE has since turned to PG-TV, focusing far more on younger kids and removing a lot of the questionable content. They have now attracted some more "wholesome" companies that are more apt not mind their product being associated with a PG wrestling show and wants to take advantage at its marketing towards younger kids.

    I imagine along with that kids are more likely than adults to wear wrestling TV shirts and other sort of merchandise, which I'm sure played into the business aspects of it as wel.

    Wrestling changed its product presentation and its target demographic (Moving to children/young teens instead of the 16-30 types). By doing so it POSSIBLY resulted in lower ratings and buy rates of PPV's (I say posibly because there are a number of potential factors) however it lead to increased advertising and merchandise revenues due to the ability to attract higher dollar advertisers and market to people more likely to purchase some of their items.

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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I did. Loss in major transnational sponsors is loss in revenue. Are you asking for actual numbers to what is a fact of free market economics in the media world? More proof that your work in the business world wasn't above bagging somebody's vegetables. Here, so that you'll quit your lame trolling:
    You sure seem to have a lot invested in driving Beck off the air and the question is why? As stated, it isn't your decision to make and since Fox doesn't post data on their financials all you do is speculate. Fox profits continue to set records as do their ratings.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Why don't you take your services to News Corp and tell them how to run a business. The TV has an off/on and channel button. use them. You don't like Beck, fine but it isn't your decision whether or not he stays on the air. His ratings are still tops in the time slot and beats his competitors by three times.
    Well, you are sorta right, but mostly wrong. There is nothing wrong with saying that you don't think a TV personality should have a job. If you can get enough people, and more importantly advertisers, to agree with you, you might even get your way. This too is part of that capitalism thing. It has nothing to do with telling any one how to run their business, that is pure nonsense.

    His ratings relative to his competitors though as we have shown you repeatedly is only partially relevant. His ratings compared to the ratings FOX thinks they can get in the timeslot, and the number and quality of advertisers they can get with or without Beck is the real issue.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    No, actually you just showed that he has different sponsors now. You presented no proof that he is charging his new sponsors less or that his revenue has dropped.
    I just posted it Beck's weekly loss in revenue. Quit being such a dishonest little boy.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You sure seem to have a lot invested in driving Beck off the air and the question is why? As stated, it isn't your decision ot make and since Fox doesn't post data on their financials all you do is speculate. Fox profits continue to set records as do their ratings.
    Explaining to you the free market is not trying to drive Beck off the air, no more than the people who bitch and moan about every move Olbermann makes where trying to drive him off the air. Less even.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Here is Beck outlining just one of the people behind the "boycott"

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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, you are sorta right, but mostly wrong. There is nothing wrong with saying that you don't think a TV personality should have a job. If you can get enough people, and more importantly advertisers, to agree with you, you might even get your way. This too is part of that capitalism thing. It has nothing to do with telling any one how to run their business, that is pure nonsense.

    His ratings relative to his competitors though as we have shown you repeatedly is only partially relevant. His ratings compared to the ratings FOX thinks they can get in the timeslot, and the number and quality of advertisers they can get with or without Beck is the real issue.
    Capitalism is about satisfying the customer and making revenue for the country. Beck's ratings top his time slot and triple his competitors and Fox News has record profits therefore IMO they aren't overly concerned about speculation here about whether or not Beck is losing business since no one here knows for sure. A lot here want Beck off the air for their own partisan reasons. Doubt that News Corp is paying a lot of attention.

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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I did. Loss in major transnational sponsors is loss in revenue. Are you asking for actual numbers to what is a fact of free market economics in the media world? More proof that your work in the business world wasn't above bagging somebody's vegetables. Here, so that you'll quit your lame trolling:

    Glenn Beck Cost Fox Millions and Lost Half His Audience, but News Corp. Stands Behind Him | BNET

    Glenn Beck's empire: By the numbers - The Week

    Honestly.
    Gill? Conservative?
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