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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    God I hate the PG era

    With that said...I agree with your and others overall point. If Beck is losing REVENUE then that's definitely a reason to potentially axe him.

    However, that wasn't the topic of this thread and has been a goal post move by a lot of the people arguing for it. The topic of this thread was focusing, seemingly, on him being "axed" because he lost a million viewers. You can't sit here and go "He's going to get axed because he lost 1/3rd of his viewers" and then when people point out the size of his viewers go "Yeah but his revenues are down".

    Kind of like you saying that Matthews ratings are irrelevant to whether or not Beck lost 1/3rd of his viewers, whether he lost one million viewers or not is irrelevant to whether is revenue's are down. As you and others are arguing, him having high ratings does note correllate to high revenues. Similarly, him losing 1 million viewers doesn't necessarily mean he's hurting in regards to revenues.

    People were trying to argue he was floundering because he lost 1 million viewers. People, rightfully so, countered this by showing that even though he lost 1 million he's still an extremely successful show with regards to viewership so axing him for that reason would be foolish. So now people are trying to put the revenue argument out there thinking that counters the counter, when in actuality its an entirely different argument.

    Is Beck getting axed because he lost 1 million viewers...which was the original point and topic of the thread?

    or is Beck getting axed because his revenue is going down...which is now the sudden change people are attempting to push.

    Those are two significantly different accusations, and questions, and I find it rather funny watching people quickly grab onto that when it was obvious the million viewers lost comments didn't stand alone well when looking at the big picture as a reason Beck would be "axed"
    I have mixed feelings on the TV-PG era. At least Mae Young won't be giving birth to a hand or anything as stupid and vile as that.

    You are correct on the direction of the thread, but the position that he was getting axed for losing viewers was never my position. I simply countered the claim that just because he has more viewers than some one else does not mean he is safe. I have no clue what FOX is considering with respect to Beck, and for the most part don't care.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Does anyone here watch Beck regularly? I have tried to watch, but I can only handle a few minutes of him. He's kind of a combination of Ross Perot and Jimmy Baker.
    I catch him from time to time....I like it better when he sticks to business and exposes the Allensky left for what they are through their connections. I don't much care for the preachy shows....Other real good ones are the ones on the founding fathers....very interesting.


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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wow...bigot much? You are SUCH a class act...every day you go and prove Oscar right about you.
    What's biggoted about being annoyed that every time I'm trying to watch a video I have to sit through a commercial about his religion?
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Kind of funny that Walmart dropped him, because I always thought they loved the Republicans... they seem really socially conservative.

    BTW... why are some of those companies bolded???
    The ones bolded are the important ones. Coca-Cola, Best Buy, insurance companies.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I catch him from time to time....I like it better when he sticks to business and exposes the Allensky left for what they are through their connections. I don't much care for the preachy shows....Other real good ones are the ones on the founding fathers....very interesting.


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    He was exposing some hipocrisy of the right on the show I watched. I bet that doesn't happen all that much.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I sold advertising on a heavy metal station back in the late 1980s. We were rated #2 in the 18-34 timeslot, a highly desirable demographic. But, our ad rates were less than our competitors who were at #3-5. During that era, advertisers believed that our listeners were slackers without money. Even though we had good ratings, we could not charge as much as some radio stations because of our format. The demand for our ad slots wasn't as high as it was with more mainstream, innocuous pop stations.

    Also, during this time period, Slash was interviewed by one of our DJs during the morning drive. This was a major coup, GNR was at the top of the charts back then. But...Slash said the F word several times, and the idiotic DJ didn't have him on time delay. Not only did we get fined by the FCC, but a couple of my advertisers pulled their ads (money out of my pocket and out of the station's coffers). The DJ was later fired.

    It's not just about ratings. The image of the station is everything. In beck's case, he's increasingly presented an image that isn't desirable to most advertisers. He appears fringe, offensive, erratic, and frankly---crazy. He's the Charlie Sheen of political talk right now. That's not a good thing. Major corporations want to advertise with programs that aren't going to offend their potential customers.
    TV media is a business just like anything else. If Beck was an internet personality, I'd agree that maybe he wouldn't see his website shutting down anytime soon with 2 million unique hits a day. However any ventures outside of the internet are almost entirely dependent on advertisement revenue. You could have 10,000,000 viewers but if nobody wants to pay for the operating costs of your show and you start bleeding viewers, the chances of you surviving are slim to none.
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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What's biggoted about being annoyed that every time I'm trying to watch a video I have to sit through a commercial about his religion?
    Then don't watch, turn the channel or better yet turn off the TV. Trying to destroy the man is typical liberalism these days. Let the ratings and Fox decide, an organized boycott shows the intellectual dishonesty of liberalism.

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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The ones bolded are the important ones. Coca-Cola, Best Buy, insurance companies.

    Hatuey, can you tell us what you think is wrong with Beck's message, and offer what you think he should do to regain the sponsors caving to pressure from the Van Jones, Geo. Soros groups now going after them?


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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I would like to see some logic and common sense from a liberal but that will happen when hell freezes over. I don't watch Beck but defend his right to be on air and to make the choice whether or not to watch. LIberals want to silence any opposition. Just love the compassion and liberal fairness.
    I can't speak about anyone else but, I support Glenn Beck's right to be on the air 100%. However, I do believe he makes the right look foolish and stupid.


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    Re: Fox News firebrand Glenn Beck facing axe

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I can't speak about anyone else but, I support Glenn Beck's right to be on the air 100%. However, I do believe he makes the right look foolish and stupid.
    Now that I can accept and agree with. You have a right to your opinion just like Beck does and if someone doesn't like it, turn the channel or TV off. Organizing a boycott shows just how radical some really are.

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