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Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

This crime is too horrific, too vicious for me to wrap my mind around. But it gets worse. The entire family is getting death threats. The town is actually divided about whose fault this was, the males or the little girl... or the girl's parents! All of the family's kids have had to leave town and relocate, and some of the lawyers for the boys are saying things like, "This is not a case of a child who was enslaved or taken advantage of." WTF??? 18 men and boys (or more, some say based on dozens of videos taken during the attacks it could be as many as 28 men) GANG-RAPED an 11-yr. old., but didn't enslave or take advantage of her? And half the effing town agrees?

What the hell kind of people live in Cleveland, Texas??

Some people just can't help but blame the victim :(
 
Not the point.

If you hold the law against murder as sacrosanct, you can't sanction killing 18 people for revenge if they have not received a fair trial.

But conservatives have these kinds of typical double standards. Do as I say not as I do.
I don't hold laws against murder sacrosanct. They are man created, equally flawed and often inadequate. Why don't you try putting yourself in the victim's shoes and what that must have been like for her? This is why I support strong punishment laws, I never let myself forget the victim.
 
Nobody has been arrested based on the girl's identification. All the arrests so far have been of men and boys who were videotaped raping her, then sent copies of their proud moment all over the town and the internet!! Gawk! One does not have to be a "conservative whackhead" to be appalled at a brutal crime by over a dozen men and boys against a child, dammit.

And there are conservative whackheads who are talking about shooting all 18 without a trial, read the thread.
 
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And there are conservative whackheads who are talking about shooting all 18 without a trial, read the thread.

Of course. The idea is to put yourself in the shoes of the victim or her dad. The assumption is we know who's guilty, now, what would you do? Answering honestly, I believe I would kill, maybe not all of them, but some.
 
And there are conservative whackheads who are talking about shooting all 18 without a trial, read the thread.

And I was responding to your comment that people would be arrested and/or shot based on the girl's say-so, read your post.
 
Of course. The idea is to put yourself in the shoes of the victim or her dad. The assumption is we know who's guilty, now, what would you do? Answering honestly, I believe I would kill, maybe not all of them, but some.

See I wouldn't kill them. That is allowing them to get off far to easy. I would beat their asses and then just turn myself in and go to jail.
 
See I wouldn't kill them. That is allowing them to get off far to easy. I would beat their asses and then just turn myself in and go to jail.

Stories like these that make me wanna go medieval on their asses.

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But innocent until proven guilty is still the benchmark of the law. We'll have to see what happens, but you can bet your ass Nancy Grace and every other news outlet in the country is gonna have a field day over these trials.
 
See I wouldn't kill them. That is allowing them to get off far to easy. I would beat their asses and then just turn myself in and go to jail.

I think the prosecution would be hard pressed to find a jury that would convict you. Maybe instead of killing them, they should be sentenced (after a fair trial, of course) to prison, general population with no possibility of ad seg. I'd probably be ok with that too.
 
Yay? Your momma must be proud.

Of course. The idea is to put yourself in the shoes of the victim or her dad. The assumption is we know who's guilty, now, what would you do? Answering honestly, I believe I would kill, maybe not all of them, but some.

I think I will try to participate in this bonding exercise native to your culture...

GRR. Im so angry my heart is pumping. I'm staring at the dystopian newscast bellyfeeling full of indignation. I'd rape them back! I'd torture them. I'd LYNCH them! I'd pound their skulls in with my fists and make sure they never had a trial and make a beast out of myself.
 
I think the prosecution would be hard pressed to find a jury that would convict you. Maybe instead of killing them, they should be sentenced (after a fair trial, of course) to prison, general population with no possibility of ad seg. I'd probably be ok with that too.

Maybe. I would still be willing to do the time though.
 
it would help if you read the story before making stupid comments.
the accused are not white.

That dip**** doesn't give a damn about the girl or the people that did it. All he cares about doing is using it as an excuse to take shots at conservatives. It doesn't friggin matter what race or religion, or political party these people were, what they did was horrible and they should be punished.
 
I think I will try to participate in this bonding exercise native to your culture...

GRR. Im so angry my heart is pumping. I'm staring at the dystopian newscast bellyfeeling full of indignation. I'd rape them back! I'd torture them. I'd LYNCH them! I'd pound their skulls in with my fists and make sure they never had a trial and make a beast out of myself.
Ok, let me try looking at it with your perspective. These poor boys who did this need compassion not conviction. They're just lacking self-esteem. We should be building them up, not tearing them down. A letter of apology is all that's warranted here.:roll:
 
I think I will try to participate in this bonding exercise native to your culture...

GRR. Im so angry my heart is pumping. I'm staring at the dystopian newscast bellyfeeling full of indignation. I'd rape them back! I'd torture them. I'd LYNCH them! I'd pound their skulls in with my fists and make sure they never had a trial and make a beast out of myself.

Interesting imagery. What does it have to do with what I originally commented upon, which was you saying this:

I'm gonna be the guy that doesn't believe this.

You stated you did not believe this event ever happened. What kind of response were you expecting? I'll try to oblige.
 
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Couldn't happen in this country. Especially in Texas. Must be a mistake. She should have been carrying a gun.

Are you sure they're not Muslim? Surely these people can't be your 'average joe' white guys. After all, the villains these days can never be us!

Texans do no wrong, after all. :roll:


It just doesn't cease to amaze me what incredibly selfish assholes liberals can be. I want to know from the two of you...where have any white conservatives from Texas condoned this activity? Where has anyone claimed that an 11 year old girls should be carrying a gun? Where has anyone claimed that white people never commit crimes?

I can't believe I allow myself to be amazed at the cold hearted, racist, bigoted bull **** that comes out of the mouths of liberals. I thought I knew just how despicable you people are....but you exceeded that! Its not enough for you to think you know better for us, now you honestly think you have the moral authority to talk down to us like that? I don't know if you will ever understand, but your responses to this thread show exactly why your opinion is worth as much as I paid for it.
 
BTW...all of these assholes should be strapped to a table and brutally beaten with a paddle every day for the rest of their miserable lives.
 
Are you sure they're not Muslim? Surely these people can't be your 'average joe' white guys. After all, the villains these days can never be us!

Texans do no wrong, after all. :roll:

Did you even bother to read the story or at least click on the link and see the faces of the accused?
 
Did you even bother to read the story or at least click on the link and see the faces of the accused?

Naw, Temp's a firm believer in, "let no heinous act go to waste when taking political cheap shots."

Edit: Oh ****, DoL is on the scene to tell us what a non-issue rape is to the victim.
 
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Ok, let me try looking at it with your perspective. These poor boys who did this need compassion not conviction. They're just lacking self-esteem. We should be building them up, not tearing them down. A letter of apology is all that's warranted here.:roll:

It was about us all in the thread enraging ourselves over the hypothetical rape of our children. And these folks who may/may not be guilty and the Shari'ah justice you'd want to issue upon them without trial.

You stated you did not believe this event ever happened. What kind of response were you expecting? I'll try to oblige.

I would prefer not to believe that it happened, or issue a rational doubt that this was a brutal rape of an 11 year old by 18 men. But it may be possible that you gain some sick enjoyment fantasizing the righteousness with which you would torture such criminals.

Sorry. I must not be as ****ed up as you or these rapists.
 
Why do people find it so hard to reserve judgment? You do not possess whatever evidence the police say they have, nor were you there to understand what occurred. It is not even clear from the information provided that all the people arrested actually did anything.
 
It was about us all in the thread enraging ourselves over the hypothetical rape of our children. And these folks who may/may not be guilty and the Shari'ah justice you'd want to issue upon them without trial.
Well, what if they're convicted, then what? Group therapy?



I would prefer not to believe that it happened, or issue a rational doubt that this was a brutal rape of an 11 year old by 18 men. But it may be possible that you gain some sick enjoyment fantasizing the righteousness with which you would torture such criminals.
I think it's sick to rather assume that the victim must be lying than allow for the possibility of the rape. You say we pre-judged the guys, well you pre-judged the 11 year old victim.

Sorry. I must not be as ****ed up as you or these rapists.
You're more so. Wanting to hurt someone who's hurt your family is perfectly normal.
 
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It was about us all in the thread enraging ourselves over the hypothetical rape of our children. And these folks who may/may not be guilty and the Shari'ah justice you'd want to issue upon them without trial.



I would prefer not to believe that it happened, or issue a rational doubt that this was a brutal rape of an 11 year old by 18 men. But it may be possible that you gain some sick enjoyment fantasizing the righteousness with which you would torture such criminals.

Sorry. I must not be as ****ed up as you or these rapists.

You had better produce one post of mine that fantasized torturing such criminals, because I'm not going to ignore such lying slander here. Before you had merely annoyed me. Now you have pissed me the hell off.
 
Does it even need to be said? Really?

Oh, not to you Diana... Whew, I was responding to the OP. It looks like I am challenging you.. :)



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17 kids and adult kids? 17 blacks raped a 11 year old girl? I can even comment because Im close to losing it.
about 10 minutes later......
this is what guns are made for. every call the family gets that are the least bit threatening should be traced back to the originator and they too should be arrested and their house torn apart for any evidence or wrong-doing.
 
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