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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by theplaydrive View Post
    You probably won't believe me, but when I was in 8th grade (13 yrs old), their was a girl who honestly, in every way, looked like she was 16-17. She looked 13 when we were in 4th grade. I wouldn't be surprised if an 11 year old looked 16-17 esp. now when so many girls look and dress much older (look at the younger Kardashians/Jenners that are always in the news.)
    There are 13 year olds that look like they are 16-17. However, there are not any 11 year old girls that look remotely similar to 17 year olds. Secondly, these guys were not 17, but older.

    The link under show some 11 year old girls. Some of them may have small boobs, but you are an idiot if you can't see that they are much younger than 17 and not legal to have sex with, especially not to force them to have sex with you.

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YO-5uBkwYi.../all+of+us.JPG

    I believe they should get at least 10 years each. That may sound little in America, but I was born in country (Norway) where such cases would only result in one year prison sentence.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwing86 View Post
    Sorry I read this.. and your previous statement about how the system worked...

    I majored in Criminal Justice here in Mississippi, and although my emphasis was Homeland Security I did take quite a bit of courses on the prison system and just the correctional system as a whole. Our system fails so bad it is almost unbelievable. Jails are one of the most underfunded areas in the system and guess what? Jails are where you wait to find out if you are "innocent" or "guilty". By a jury of your peers. And I'm sorry to say but most juries are made up of people who don't know jack **** about the law or how it is applied. It's all a game, the prosecutor will come in saying "this guy is the worst human filth I have ever seen..." the defense attorney will come in "this guy is an angel who has done nothing wrong..." and than the JURY is suppose to decide when they know NOTHING about law... it is a ****ing circus. The only smart people have already been thrown off the jury selection pool by the defense and prosecution... they don't want smart people on the jury.

    The only way to defend your self is if you have tons of money to buy a "proper" defense. Poor people get shafted when they go to court. I could tell you countless stories of fake dental evidence used in child murder cases, horrible eye witness accounts, just bull****. Our system fails, end of story. And no I don't know a "simple" solution it's a complex situation that maybe does not have an answer. In fact educate yourself and take a glance at the Innocence Project. In particular Mississippi's.
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    Nobody is saying our system is perfect, but is it going to be more perfect if we just allow pedos to get away with molesting children just because the child waits awhile before they tell someone maybe because they're threatened or whatever? As for the jury not knowing the law, they're not supposed to. Their roll is to determine the facts. Yes, they do apply the facts to the law they're given. An adversarial trial, where both sides are subject to cross exam, is the best way for the jury to decide the facts. Add to that, the high burden of proof on the prosecution and basically the deck is actually stacked in favor of the defendant. It's funny that someone here (not you), on one hand says that people are convicted simply based on a child testifying, then uses as his example of our "broken system" a case where someone is acquitted.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    He got a little vacation to think about his numerous personal attacks. I haven't attacked anyone on this thread. If I had, I would have most CERTAINLY been infracted for it.

    Why don't you try your best to keep on topic and not make this thread about me, k? I could easily report tons of posts on here as personal attacks. It's all you guys on the right have. You can't dispute anything I say. I post links, with facts and sources, in response you attack me, call me a sex offender lover, an idiot, and a host of other wonderful infractable things. I've kept this conversation on a very adult level, even if my competition has not. I have a history of not following the rules around here, but I'm trying my best to. I can see the mods are coming through for me and taking care of business. Thanks, guys and gals.

    You attack me personally, in any way, shape or form, and I will report you. I didn't used to, but I will now. When responding to attacks gets you a two week vacation but reporting them only gets THEM a 2 week vacation, I'm all for the latter.
    Let's talk credibility here, shall we. It's come up a couple times since credibility of the victim, the offender and whoever else is important. You say that you have not engaged in personal attacks. I say that is an inaccurate claim. I'm basically accusing you of being untruthful or, at least, mistaken. If this were a court of law, then, I would need to prove it, right? Well, I would offer, as my evidence, X's exhibit's A-N

    Exhibit A
    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Even you, conservative whackheads.
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    And there are conservative whackheads who are talking about shooting all 18 without a trial, read the thread.
    Exhibit C
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    Oh yea, Ikari, X factor comes across as a bunch of hot air to me. I know men 10 times tougher than him that came back from Iraq after having been in a firefight and killing insurgents who were SHOOTING AT THEM and they are visibly shaken by having to take another mans life, and in that case, they had no choice. I would say 95% of people who say they would shoot these people would not do it, or would do it and run like a scared rat. They wouldn't take their consequences like a man. It's easy to talk tough on a web forum, in real life though, that's a whole 'nother story. He wants to be seen as all "tough" to his fellow web members, but usually the ones that talk the most trash are the ones that would cower in a real incident.
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    Committing one violent crime in the name of another is putting yourself at their level. I would look at you both and say "what idiots."
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    Quote me with one thing I said where I defended the actions of a murderer or rapist. Since I know you can't, shove it up your a##. If you had a lick of brains you'd know I'm defending those accused of these crimes and ARE ACTUALLY INNOCENT.

    Damn, you wonder how some people manage to put one foot in front of the other with brain cells so few and far between.
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    Now get this, this same idiot attacked me earlier for not having kids and thus my non-emotional reaction to this thread was an indication that I must agree with the rape or some kind of ****.

    Glad he's banned. He wasn't worth the space on my screen.
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    Lets just say I sure am glad people more intelligent than yourself sit behind the bench in our state and federal courtrooms.
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    Really? Well just like most on the right, you might want to open your eyes and read what's actually been posted.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059334866

    And for the record, for the idiots on here who think I condone this ****, in no way do I think this girl consented. Even if she said yes, at 11, she has no idea what shes saying yes to. Now, rightwingnutjobs, is that clear enough?

    Jeez, it's like reasoning with a dead rat.
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    Don't worry, I've already proven you wrong. No need to waste your time trying to caress your little ego.
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    LOL yea right, I'm not getting into a dick measuring contest with someone as imbicillic as you. But I promise you, people who read this thread will say that I look at things rationally, with links and stats, you just attack out of hate.

    Yea, let me tell you, its MY credibility that's been hurt here. LOL ROTFLMAO
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    You need to stop telling liberals to ignore what media matters tell them when right wing kooks like yourself suck down the Fox news coolaid like it's beer from a keg.
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    I sure hope to hell you and X factor don't consider yourself Christians, because you certainly aren't acting like one. Preaching "second chances" and "forgive thy neighbor" and "judge not, lest ye shall be judged". What a joke.

    I have one I'll finish this out with, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Suck on that one a little while, Christian wanna-bes.
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    PCF has been shut down for 6 months, why are you bringing that forum up here?

    It will never be enough as long as people like X factor spew forth their bull****.

    Why is it enough? Can't dispute what I say so you want to shut me up? That's very left wing of you, independent. I don't take it personally. I didn't touch this kid, don't know anyone who did and abhore the idea of what they did. But that being said, I care about the truth, something many on the right don't seem to give a **** about. I post multiple links with the truth, and they don't even open them up, they just attack me.
    I rest my case. Whether I've proven it, well, that'd be up to a jury.

    Anyway, thanks for your participation in this little demonstration.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I rest my case. Whether I've proven it, well, that'd be up to a jury.
    I think you proved it quite well.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I think you proved it quite well.
    Appreciate you saying so, Mac. It took me forever to compile my evidence on the iPad.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Just saw this article giving more details on the case:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/us...ewanted=1&_r=2

    Notably I see not mention of the 14 year-old from earlier articles and one of the individuals charged was apparently only present according to the information. This also confirms it was not all a single incident but several incidents over three months. Oddly there is one individual charged with rape who appears to only be charged as acting alone in separate incidents.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    1) there wouldn't be any suvivors and 2) the burden of proof is on the presecution.
    Double tap..dead men tell no lies.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Just saw this article giving more details on the case:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/29/us...ewanted=1&_r=2

    Notably I see not mention of the 14 year-old from earlier articles and one of the individuals charged was apparently only present according to the information. This also confirms it was not all a single incident but several incidents over three months. Oddly there is one individual charged with rape who appears to only be charged as acting alone in separate incidents.
    Four of the defendants are charged with continuous sexual abuse of a young child. The rest are charged with a single count of aggravated sexual assault of a child under 14. Both felonies carry a sentence of 25 years to life in prison.
    I hope they throw the book at them. What a bunch of sorry excuses for human beings.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Let's talk credibility here, shall we. It's come up a couple times since credibility of the victim, the offender and whoever else is important. You say that you have not engaged in personal attacks. I say that is an inaccurate claim. I'm basically accusing you of being untruthful or, at least, mistaken. If this were a court of law, then, I would need to prove it, right? Well, I would offer, as my evidence, X's exhibit's A-N

    Exhibit A

    Exhibit B

    Exhibit C

    Exhibit D

    Exhibit E

    Exhibit F

    Exhibit G

    Exhibit H

    Exhibit I

    Exhibit J

    Exhibit K
    Exhibit L

    Exhibit M

    Exhibit N


    I rest my case. Whether I've proven it, well, that'd be up to a jury.

    Anyway, thanks for your participation in this little demonstration.
    And not one of those instances was I infracted for. I can even pop a screenie of my infraction list to prove my case. You, on the other hand, got a 3 day vacation for your attacks on me. Funny how that works, ain't it?

    So while YOU might interpret them as personal attacks, the people that actually MATTER, don't. G'day!
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 04-18-11 at 11:04 PM.

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    And not one of those instances was I infracted for. I can even pop a screenie of my infraction list to prove my case.
    Do it, I dare ya.

    You, on the other hand, got a 3 day vacation for your attacks on me. Funny how that works, ain't it?
    It was 2 days, not three, so there.

    So while YOU might interpret them as personal attacks, the people that actually MATTER, don't. G'day!
    That's fine, that's their call. Just so you know, I didn't report any one of those. It's not the way I prefer to handle things.
    Last edited by X Factor; 04-19-11 at 12:56 AM.
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