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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    How does one person's unsubstantiated claim debunk another's? Just because your sympathies are for the girl doesn't mean her word is sacrosanct. Rape victims lie for any number of reasons, providing they are telling the truth about being a victim in the first place.

    18 people rape, 11 year old, and you challenge the victim? seriously, you need to seek help.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Without a doubt. I seriously, like 95%, doubt she consented to anything.

    But on that same note, when society hears the word "rape" they think violence. Force. Coercion. They don't think an 18yo with his 17 or 16yo gf on prom night. However, in many states, this is indeed statutory rape. Overuse of the word "rape" has numbed its original meaning.

    And while I believe an 11yo girl can consent to sex with a same-age boyfriend, I don't believe that either of them know what the hell they're doing or getting into. But, at least in that case, neither of them is "taking advantage" of the other.

    When an adult is involved with a child, the adult always looks down on the child. And the child naturally looks up to the adult. While a few preteen girls might want sex with an adult, it's up to the adult to say "No, I'm a grown up and you're a child. I know you think you want this and you probably do, but as the grown up it's my job to say, "no." It's when the adult thinks with the wrong head (or if a female, her girly parts) is when problems arise. Because the law says its rape, but society's views on rape don't involve two willing participants, regardless of age. It is confusing to an adult not thinking 100% straight and meaningless to a child, as even in their own eyes, they aren't being raped because they are consenting.

    It's a conflict that will go on indefinitely until either everyone is in jail or the laws get changed. My grandmother got married at 13 to my grandfather who was 19. He was the stand up man of his community and even has a major street named after him. According to today's laws, he is a child sexual predator. That's almost so ridiculous it's funny.
    That was at least 100 years ago and it's likely you don't know the whole story. Second, 100years ago is a damn site greater distance than the space between 11 and 13, Meaning even 100 years ago.... gang banging an 11 year old would still be sick, whether she consented, or not.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    That was at least 100 years ago and it's likely you don't know the whole story. Second, 100years ago is a damn site greater distance than the space between 11 and 13, Meaning even 100 years ago.... gang banging an 11 year old would still be sick, whether she consented, or not.
    What does it matter WHEN it was? If its raping a child now, it was raping a child then. You're saying that the law alone defines rape, not the act? And yes, I know the whole story of my own grandparents, as I talked to my grandmother about it when I was a child!! LOL

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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    What does it matter WHEN it was? If its raping a child now, it was raping a child then. You're saying that the law alone defines rape, not the act? And yes, I know the whole story of my own grandparents, as I talked to my grandmother about it when I was a child!! LOL
    What it means is societies standards have changed. We have come to realize that at that age, having the equipment doesn't mean you know how to use it. She was 11, there is no way that any of what happened to her is justified by any stretch of the imagination.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    When, exactly, has it been culturally acceptable to gang rape an 11 year old in the US?

    Anywhere else?
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Are you implying that an eleven year old girl wanted to have sex with 18 men and then turned around and cried "rape"?
    First of all, I do not believe they know all 18 people arrested did have sex with her. Secondly some of them were as young as 14 so it is not as simple as some portray it. Finally, I was only saying that she may not be fully telling the truth. I do find it doubtful that she would consent to sex with multiple people while being watched and recorded by several more people.

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    ELEVEN YEARS OLD.

    Simply under statutory rape laws, she was raped.
    I prefer to look at the question from a perspective rooted in reality rather than laws rooted in blind emotion. That a bunch of 50 year-old people think anyone under 17 is too stupid or naive to engage in responsible sexual behavior is not relevant to reality. Of course, if a person is coerced into sex that is rape no matter the age.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    When an adult is involved with a child, the adult always looks down on the child. And the child naturally looks up to the adult. While a few preteen girls might want sex with an adult, it's up to the adult to say "No, I'm a grown up and you're a child. I know you think you want this and you probably do, but as the grown up it's my job to say, "no." It's when the adult thinks with the wrong head (or if a female, her girly parts) is when problems arise. Because the law says its rape, but society's views on rape don't involve two willing participants, regardless of age. It is confusing to an adult not thinking 100% straight and meaningless to a child, as even in their own eyes, they aren't being raped because they are consenting.

    It's a conflict that will go on indefinitely until either everyone is in jail or the laws get changed. My grandmother got married at 13 to my grandfather who was 19. He was the stand up man of his community and even has a major street named after him. According to today's laws, he is a child sexual predator. That's almost so ridiculous it's funny.
    The thing is that one could say it about any difference in age. Someone who is 50 might look down on someone who is 20 and someone who is 20 look up to someone who is 50. A 50 year-old may be more capable of manipulating someone who is 20. Of course, the real difference is in the mindsets of people. An astute and capable 20 year-old is capable of manipulating people many years their senior. The same would be true of even younger individuals. Yet talking about that has far less acceptance. We have separate legal systems for youth because of that very perception that someone who is under a certain age simply cannot do what someone over that age can.

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    18 people rape, 11 year old, and you challenge the victim? seriously, you need to seek help.
    There are plenty of people who challenge the 18 people more severely so one more will be of no use. I am at least not reaching definite conclusions, since publicly available evidence is sparse, unlike you assuming all 18 people are rapists just because you saw it on the news.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    First of all, I do not believe they know all 18 people arrested did have sex with her. Secondly some of them were as young as 14 so it is not as simple as some portray it. Finally, I was only saying that she may not be fully telling the truth. I do find it doubtful that she would consent to sex with multiple people while being watched and recorded by several more people.



    I prefer to look at the question from a perspective rooted in reality rather than laws rooted in blind emotion. That a bunch of 50 year-old people think anyone under 17 is too stupid or naive to engage in responsible sexual behavior is not relevant to reality. Of course, if a person is coerced into sex that is rape no matter the age.



    The thing is that one could say it about any difference in age. Someone who is 50 might look down on someone who is 20 and someone who is 20 look up to someone who is 50. A 50 year-old may be more capable of manipulating someone who is 20. Of course, the real difference is in the mindsets of people. An astute and capable 20 year-old is capable of manipulating people many years their senior. The same would be true of even younger individuals. Yet talking about that has far less acceptance. We have separate legal systems for youth because of that very perception that someone who is under a certain age simply cannot do what someone over that age can.



    There are plenty of people who challenge the 18 people more severely so one more will be of no use. I am at least not reaching definite conclusions, since publicly available evidence is sparse, unlike you assuming all 18 people are rapists just because you saw it on the news.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

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    Trying to completely remove emotion from the laws governing an emotional people is folly.
    It is not about completely removing emotion, but not allowing emotion to control the law.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    It is not about completely removing emotion, but not allowing emotion to control the law.
    It's not about controlling law....emotion can not be removed from law or it will be crueler than any crime.
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    Re: Eighteen involved in gang rape of 11 year old girl in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    First of all, I do not believe they know all 18 people arrested did have sex with her. Secondly some of them were as young as 14 so it is not as simple as some portray it. Finally, I was only saying that she may not be fully telling the truth. I do find it doubtful that she would consent to sex with multiple people while being watched and recorded by several more people.
    Well, ten having sex with her while the other eight watch is not much better... of course she could have started out agreeing to sex with one guy and then the rest rushed up, or whatever, and then she lied about agreeing to sex in the first place, but that matter is irrelevant once the gang pile starts up anyway.
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